How to prepare smoke compositions
#1
Posted 29 September 2004 - 07:18 PM
I have all the ingredients to make white, red and yellow/orange smoke compositions:
White Smoke
Potassium chlorate......... 44
Sulfur flour............ 15
Zinc dust.......... 40
Sodium bicarbonate ..........1
Red Smoke
Potassium Chlorate.......... 6
Lactose.............. 4
Rhodamine .............10
Sodium Bicarb............. 1
Dextrin...............1
Yellow/Orange
Potassium Chlorate........ 6
Lactose........... 4
Fluorescein .........10
Sodium Bicarb....... 2
Dextrin........ 1
Firstly has anyone made these compositions up succesfully and did they work well?
How do you prepare the compositions? Do you simply mix them up and pack them into a device or do you need to add a solvent and granulate them, or something different?
Also what type of casing should I use in view as using them to produce a smoke screen?
Again I apologise if this type of thread already exists.
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#2
Posted 30 September 2004 - 07:47 AM
Some smoke mixtures will benefit from this hightened pressure the disk provides, but others will burn with thinner smoke. I'm not sure how to determine this.
You will find that the coloured smoke mixtures tend to have a less dense output, so the white smoke formula will be most suited to screening.
#3
Posted 30 September 2004 - 01:37 PM
Does anyone have Smoke Generation: Tactical, Survival, Civilian By Gary Purrington? Wouldnt mind paying for it but rather come here and get some experiences.
#4
Posted 30 September 2004 - 02:00 PM
Has anyone ever seen a smoke formula using Ammonium Chloride, because I haven't......
I would love to find a good use for the stuff.
#5
Posted 30 September 2004 - 02:15 PM
#6
Posted 30 September 2004 - 04:00 PM
Its not too sensitive against friction or something like that. If you keep it really dry, the formation of NH4ClO3 can readily be prevented. And it is not relly hard to keep it dry.
Its a good smoke mixture. But its too impractical for me, so I?ll keep on using Kn/So or Kn/Su/Parafin....
Edited by paul, 30 September 2004 - 04:02 PM.
#7
Posted 30 September 2004 - 04:07 PM
1) Fast smoke production
If the mixture is loosely laid out, e.g. just poured into a tube and not compacted, and a quantity of iron oxide added, it will burn very fast and produce a massive cloud all at once.
2)Slow smoke
If you do the same as above, but compact it, it should burn slower. A KNO3/sugar (powder) mix completely rammed down with a sledgehammer in a tube will burn for ages and give off lots of smoke.
3)Directional smoke
If you ram the mix into a long, thin tube, it will come out fast and allow you to get a directional stream of smoke to spray.
Also a KNO3/sugar 60/40 mix produces a lot of grey/white smoke and works better melted (mix it up and heat it, only the sugar melts, leaving KNO3 crystals spread around).
#8
Posted 30 September 2004 - 09:43 PM
Sorry if this type of thread exists, I have looked for it but haven't found anything that answers my questions.
I have all the ingredients to make white, red and yellow/orange smoke compositions:
White Smoke
Potassium chlorate......... 44
Sulfur flour............ 15
Zinc dust.......... 40
Sodium bicarbonate ..........1
Red Smoke
Potassium Chlorate.......... 6
Lactose.............. 4
Rhodamine .............10
Sodium Bicarb............. 1
Dextrin...............1
Yellow/Orange
Potassium Chlorate........ 6
Lactose........... 4
Fluorescein .........10
Sodium Bicarb....... 2
Dextrin........ 1
Firstly has anyone made these compositions up succesfully and did they work well?
How do you prepare the compositions? Do you simply mix them up and pack them into a device or do you need to add a solvent and granulate them, or something different?
Also what type of casing should I use in view as using them to produce a smoke screen?
Again I apologise if this type of thread already exists.
ALL THESE COMPOSITIONS ARE MADE WITH POTASSIUM CHLORATE ?
Uhhhhhhhmmmm Bad, dad, bad...
#9
Posted 01 October 2004 - 06:40 AM
#10
Posted 01 October 2004 - 10:06 PM
#11
Posted 08 October 2004 - 12:09 PM
White Smoke
Potassium chlorate......... 44
Sulfur flour............ 15
Zinc dust.......... 40
Sodium bicarbonate ..........1
Not a good idea from the start.
#12
Posted 09 October 2005 - 11:13 PM
Red Smoke
Potassium Chlorate.......... 6
Sugar.............. 4
Red Gum.............10
Sodium Bicarb............. 1
Dextrin...............1
#13
Posted 10 October 2005 - 01:25 AM
#14
Posted 10 October 2005 - 01:34 AM
#15
Posted 14 November 2005 - 08:07 PM
even smoke mixtures bought from suppliers....Firefox, Skylighter..etc...are based upon KCLO3 (you have to add it )...
if you are looking for a way of making a durable smoke screen mixture i would recommend making a compositon mixture using PBAN...this keeps hydroscopity down to a minimum and increases shelf life
good luck...and i do recommend that book to anyone who is interested in smoke
Edited by Ghost_Walker, 14 November 2005 - 08:08 PM.
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