How to prepare smoke compositions
#46
Posted 26 July 2006 - 02:22 AM
#47
Posted 26 July 2006 - 07:16 AM
Another method I have read about is to add about 5% Sodium Bicarbonate to the mix. This way, when it burns, it will release Carbon Dioxide which should help prevent flames. Having tried this, I can tell you that it sometimes stops it, and its a bugger to light. Personally, I much prefer the cardboard tube method.
Edited by Stuart, 26 July 2006 - 07:17 AM.
#48
Posted 26 July 2006 - 08:26 AM
#49
Posted 26 July 2006 - 02:10 PM
I'm checking into making smoke cannisters from steel cans like the military M18 smokes...the cans and lids are cheap...38 cents per set but the lid sealer is expensive...$200 for the cheapest one!
#50
Posted 13 October 2006 - 04:16 PM
Simple White Smoke device
KN03 48
Sucrose (ordinary sugar) 40
Paraffin Wax 25
The KNO3 and Sucrose should be in their ordinary unmilled state ie: a white crystalline powder. I have no doubt that using finely milled sugar/KNO3 would improve the mix, but in the interests of keeping things simple I didn't do this.
The paraffin wax should also be powdered. To make this you should place candles / tealights in the freezer for an hour or so and then grate finely using a cheese grater.
TopTip!: Make sure you wash the cheese grater before your spouse sees it otherwise be prepared to suffer a glare that could open an oyster at 50 paces.
Mix all the ingrediants together well - you could screen but I just used a mixing bowl and a spoon. Ram into a half inch tube with a clay plug at the bottom, using half inch increments. Don't use too much force as you can split the tube. Sharp whacks from the wrist basically.
Place a strand of blackmatch across the top of the rammed comp, and leading out of the tube. Pour a little loose comp over the top and press a some wadded kitchen roll into the end to plug it. Finish with nosing paper.
A five inch tube filled nearly to the top burns for 2 mins!
#51
Posted 14 October 2006 - 12:42 PM
shellfish extracting annoyanceTopTip!: Make sure you wash the cheese grater before your spouse sees it otherwise be prepared to suffer a glare that could open an oyster at 50 paces.
#52
Posted 16 October 2006 - 04:55 PM
Candles
#53
Posted 24 October 2006 - 04:49 AM
not sure if you were serious about dissolving the wax sugar and Kno3 but I tried it wasnt the best but it did work Il take a video next time and next Im gonna try melting them all together
and man Did I miss pyrotechnics but I had other more important buisness i had to attend to
Edited by myinisjap, 24 October 2006 - 04:52 AM.
#54
Posted 24 October 2006 - 10:46 AM
Ball millling wax would probably cause you too many problems as it will clump. Also the ingredients dont need to be ball milled as mentioned above.
James
#55
Posted 03 November 2006 - 09:16 PM
In that grams or percentage(adding all it gives 103% )?I have been experimenting with white smokes today. Here are my notes on a simple smoke device for your delectation.....
Simple White Smoke device
KN03 48
Sucrose (ordinary sugar) 40
Paraffin Wax 25
#56
Posted 04 November 2006 - 12:20 AM
it's in parts, could beIn that grams or percentage(adding all it gives 103% )?
48 tonnes kno3
40 tonnes sugar
25 tonnes wax
or could be in grams, kgs, lbs...
#57
Posted 18 July 2007 - 09:45 PM
yes! i did this years ago in my back garden and it filled everywhere with thick smoke,much to my horror!, the only reason i am posting is i made some 50g kno3+ sugar,smokes last night ,but dont think much of them what does everbody else think?Try KNO3 + Paraffin wax (aka candle wax)
I know it sounds 'kewwwwl' but it does a pretty good job. Better than KNO3 + Sugar in my opinion.
#58
Posted 19 July 2007 - 07:55 AM
Be warned, use a thick steel can as it will melt through thin tin cans
#59
Posted 19 July 2007 - 10:07 AM
http://www.scuddlebutt3.co.uk/Dyes.htm
I bought the Deluxe dye pack, and although it doesn`t look like a lot, a little Does go a long way! although I don`t use mine in smoke comps.
it might be worth a look
#60
Posted 19 July 2007 - 05:00 PM
thanks ,interesting dyes site,rhodamines are they used in smoke comps?,is the idea to throw out the dye in the gases but not burn the dye,anybody had any luck, i opened a blue smoke device and the comp was a dark bluequite expensive, but UK based and High quality product, fast delivery too.
http://www.scuddlebutt3.co.uk/Dyes.htm
I bought the Deluxe dye pack, and although it doesn`t look like a lot, a little Does go a long way! although I don`t use mine in smoke comps.
it might be worth a look
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