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#256 The_Djinn

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Posted 02 October 2005 - 05:05 PM

Sasman, reading your story was like a trip down memory lane :)
We had 2 chemists in the town were I lived, and yes.. we would by loads of those little box's of salpeter from the one then run about a mile to the other side of town to buy little box's of sulpher from the other and as this was when I was in South Africa... charcoal was in abundance as BBQ's is the South African way of life.

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#257 Ritual33

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Posted 07 October 2005 - 12:18 AM

Hey everyone :D
This will be my first post, my god is it hard to get validated here! hehe. No problem though, I know how busy mr admin must be, anyways I found a website that has a nice list of chemicals with separate suppliers for UK, Global and USA... Readily Available Chemicals
I hope this comes in handy for people, it's helped me get stocked up for my quest in pyrotechnics. I'm fairly new to the scene, but I know my stuff... apart from knowing a cheap supplier of KClO4 :(
I've been emailing around to see if I can get a fairly cheap supplier, when I find one, I'll let people know and they can PM me if they are legit.
As I have noticed, people have there reasons for not sharing their suppliers with everyone, it's a shame we can't all share without risk of damaging the scene.
Anyways, bed time!
Cya Guys!

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Edited by Ritual33, 07 October 2005 - 12:18 AM.

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#258 Ritual33

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Posted 07 October 2005 - 01:24 AM

Just a quick update before I go to bed, I have been searching for perc suppliers for some time now, my search (i hope) has now come to an end, I have been chatting with somebody about bulk sales which atm is not wise as I'm totally broke because I quit my job and I'm waiting for my next pay-day if I was to buy 50 kilo it would work out at about ?7.70 per kilo which is nice but like I said I dont have that kinda doe atm. Anyways he's advised me of another guy that he knows that sells perc for ?10.85 for kilo if buying in small amounts, obviously its cheaper if buying more. I know its kinda rubbing it in peoples faces a little BUT it does show that if you communicate with these chemical suppliers and you seem legit you WILL get somewhere. I've been told not to disclose any info anyways. Sorry.
Just a note, if you send many emails and maybe make some phone calls you will get what you want, through a few days of contacting people I have managed to get every chemical I will ever need, for dirt cheap aswell, I can get kno3 for ?2 per kilo and its 99.9%+ pure :P
Anyways, I really must get to bed.
P.s, does this compare to any other members prices for perc and kno3 btw?

Edited by Ritual33, 07 October 2005 - 01:29 AM.

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Posted 07 October 2005 - 07:47 AM

Hey everyone :D
This will be my first post, my god is it hard to get validated here! hehe. No problem though, I know how busy mr admin must be, anyways I found a website that has a nice list of chemicals with separate suppliers for UK, Global and USA... Readily Available Chemicals
I hope this comes in handy for people, it's helped me get stocked up for my quest in pyrotechnics. I'm fairly new to the scene, but I know my stuff... apart from knowing a cheap supplier of KClO4 :(
I've been emailing around to see if I can get a fairly cheap supplier, when I find one, I'll let people know and they can PM me if they are legit.
As I have noticed, people have there reasons for not sharing their suppliers with everyone, it's a shame we can't all share without risk of damaging the scene.
Anyways, bed time!
Cya Guys!

Drew

let's see... how many time this link was mentioned ?!?! 117 times? you will find that it is only very mildly useful for people in the UK.

Guys, you just keep repeating. The button line is, if you stay on the internet all day long, you will never get what you want - most small chemical business are not on the internet. Second if you think about buying bulk, I suggest people will think long and hard of what if means. Holding a couple of kilos might be okay and within the law, holding 200 kilos of chemicals in your house - even if legal - is going to raise questions. Let?s not forget - mixing more then a 100g is not legal, period. You might get away with a bit more - but if you start having kilos - well, this can be anything from cash fine to jail - so again, think long and hard about what you do before you do it.

The BPS is working to try to get things legalized, but until then, people have to remain more or less within the book boundaries.

#260 Ritual33

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Posted 07 October 2005 - 11:37 AM

Whoooaaaaa sorry lol, didnt see the link posted anywhere on the forums, theres not a search function to search links ;)
I was trying to help, thats ok right?
I would however appreciate not being patronized for making a mistake as trivial as that, afterall were only human, not everyone can be perfect right?

Edited by BigG, 07 October 2005 - 12:50 PM.

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#261 BigG

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Posted 07 October 2005 - 12:49 PM

I'm not patronizing - I just think that search before post is not that difficult. I found duplicates within about 65 sec of searching.

Look, at the end of the day we are trying to maintain quality forum. The forum is due to a cleaning operation sometime soon, and I'm sure we will re-arrange it and make it more useful. This includes removing supplier names, which will no longer supply because of posts. I myself received one phone call regarding this matter. Businesses, who publish on professional journals and not on the Internet, probably have a typical non-internet crowd they wish to attract.

All I'm saying that in the meanwhile, keep posts economic - the whole administration team would rather to see 1 quality post made rather then 10 posts which do not contribute at all. Not quantity - but quality!

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#262 Ritual33

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Posted 07 October 2005 - 01:22 PM

Ok no problem, I see your point, I wont be posting supplier names anyways. I wasnt trying to argue, I am eager to learn a few things from you guys. Can't wait to get to know everyone.
*shakes your hand* :)

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#263 karlfoxman

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Posted 09 October 2005 - 11:35 PM

Its good to have you back Steve, will in the future you have other chemicals? I seem to remember you having pvc and parlon. I am sure you will be getting an order from me very soon :D

Cheers,

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Posted 17 October 2005 - 03:13 AM

*wonders if all them prices includes p&p* Tis a good idea if you can't get any of the stuff cheaper, I'll definatly be buying the mesh and *possibly* some containers. All I need now is flake aluminium, can't seem to find it anywhere, hopefully this dutch fellow will be able to supply me.

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#265 completebeginner

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Posted 17 October 2005 - 05:31 AM

ritual you could buy some atomized aluminum from steve and put it through a ball mill and it should become flaked

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Posted 17 October 2005 - 12:46 PM

I recently moved from Glossop to Rochdale and quit my job so money has been a slight problem, and since I couldnt bring my ball mill with me I'm having to wait till I get a new job :S. Hopefully I'll be working for Cedilla Systems, one of Microsofts resellers in a few weeks as an SQL Programmers *crosses fingers* then money wont be a probem.

Btw, are we looking at about 40 microns to make flake, and how long are we talking about sticking it in the ball mill for? I just received an email from an English Aluminium supplier saying that they can cater for ANY pyrotechnic need, just hope they don't want me to purchase 1 ton of the stuff :P

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Posted 17 October 2005 - 02:05 PM

Word of warning, if i was you i would have a seperate milling jar and media for aluminium as its not a good idea to mill bp with a contaminated jar and media. I would think the time it takes will depend on the setup you have, my guess is a good 36 hours milling.

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Posted 17 October 2005 - 05:44 PM

I guess i'm asking to be spoonfed but does anyone know a source for magnalium, no need for it to be powdered, chunks are good.

Replies are welcome :rolleyes:

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Posted 17 October 2005 - 05:49 PM

i dont know where to get magnalium but couldnt you just mill 50/50 magnesium aluminum? or would that produce a different product

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Posted 17 October 2005 - 06:40 PM

i dont know where to get magnalium but couldnt you just mill 50/50 magnesium aluminum? or would that produce a different product



it won't work(as well as mgal)

magnalium is made from melting aluminium and dissolving magnesium in it.




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