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#121 karlfoxman

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Posted 26 February 2005 - 03:25 PM

thanks guys, i will try that pottasium chlorate comp when i get my chemicals. just how sensitive will it be. i dont like sensitive comps especially when i am pasting my shells. bit nerve racking.

broadsword, would i be able to use 'fimo' as the pvc?

alany, thanks for that interesting info. have you tried the modified comp?

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Posted 26 February 2005 - 03:32 PM

I am no expert on these stars, but i would think 'fimo' would be OK as a chlorine donor.

Anyone else got any ideas, as i say im no expert on chlorine donors :)
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Posted 26 February 2005 - 04:54 PM

alany, thanks for that interesting info. have you tried the modified comp?


Not yet, but I might tomorrow, it would be a good test of my homebrew Potassium Chlorate purity and I've been meaning to try a blue with it for quite some time.

I have a few bricks of femo on the shelf that I purchased for pyro experiments but I've never got around to using them yet. My instinct says that any fillers and pigments present might upset the colour, especially for blue. Sodium is everywhere in everything when it isn't explicitly required to be absent, however you may be lucky some on rec.pyrotechnics have reported it works - for what that's worth.

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Posted 27 February 2005 - 09:06 AM

so do you think the white coloured 'fimo' will be the one to use as it may have a cleaner burn? i read thet using 'fimo' gives the edges of the flame a bit of red, well the only way to be sure is to test. i will post my findings when i know :)

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Posted 06 March 2005 - 03:18 PM

Never order from kno3.com!

I ordered 5 meters of pic fuse once, paid for it and never recieved it.
I tried to contact him but didn't get any replies to the emails I sent.
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Posted 06 March 2005 - 04:32 PM

Mr KNO3.com, when you registered you told me that

"I sell chemicals at kno3.com and after seeing some of the false information about my company i feel i have a right to reply. Also i know a lot about the chemicals that we sell maybe this will be enough for you to accept my membership?"

So either these people are lying (I somewhat doubt this) or you've got some explaining to do.

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Posted 06 March 2005 - 10:58 PM

I agree you need some explaining to do!
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Posted 07 March 2005 - 03:03 PM

Please note the below quote from Mr KNO3.com

"I know a lot about the chemicals that we sell"

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I think that he is talking a bit of tosh. Look at the following link.

Potassium Permanganate

Mr KNO3.com seems to think that Potassium Permanganate is a "HIGHLY FLAMMABLE OXIDISER". I'd say that the person who wrote this lable knows jack sh*t about the chemicals KNO3.com sell. Just to clarify, in simple talk, there is no such thing as an oxidiser that burns. Come on, that's a bit GCSE now isn't it! This mistake is made by people that do not know a thing about chemicals. I remember not too long ago a young new member asked "potassium nitrate....Shouldn't this stuff burn".

Now if you will look at the following links;

Potassium Chlorate
Potassium Perchlorate

One is for chlorate and the other is for perc. I think this might be a schoolboy error in your website, which in my opinion you paid far too much for. Has anyone ever purchased perc from this rip-off merchant before, if you have I?d check that he hasn't sold you Chlorate instead.

Not only is this commonly know as ?passing off?, but Mr KNO3.com may have put a lot of people, at a lot of risk if he has sold chlorate instead of perc. He may have put a lot of people in danger. He has jepodised the legal position of pyrotechnics if he has, could you imagine the bad press because of an accident, caused by an illegal chemical supplier. He has also jepodised the legal position of the entire chemical industry, new legislation would be proposed and all sorts.

I?d also check that it does not burn as well :lol: .

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That's not really that secure now is it!!!

The only real secure way of holding information is to have it on your own server. And that does not mean your encrypted virtual drives in cyberspace, it means a firewalled server that you own, and is on your own premises. I'm not against common practice, but saying it is very secure when it is only a bit secure is not really on. Mr KNO3.com says that there is no threat of the police paying a visit if you order from him, the police could go and get the details without Mr KNO3.com even knowing.

Never order from kno3.com!

I ordered 5 meters of pic fuse once, paid for it and never recieved it.
I tried to contact him but didn't get any replies to the emails I sent.

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You're a crook.

You took my money for PIC, sent nothing for months and did not return the money when requested.

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I'd agree with rich and broadsword on this, it seems that Mr KNO3.com has defrauded a couple of forum members. You do have some explaining to do before anyone in their right mind would order any more PIC from you.

Mr KNO3.com also sells Calcium oxide;

LIME

Unless he is actually selling ball milled citrus fruits :lol: , he is selling a very nasty corrosive. You really do not want to get a lung full of this, and then not know why you are boiling. I'm sure that Royal Mail love carrying this around in a baggy. Correctly packaged? Not if it comes as seen in the picture

Also ALL of KNO3.com's chemicals seem to be in very high demand, sound like the chemicals are flying off the shelves, not at those prices! Could you imagine if they could only do it at the "Retail price".

I think that a sale and special offers is not really enough to get up to scratch.

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Posted 07 March 2005 - 06:24 PM

www.labpakchemicals.com/
anyoone use them? or know much about them?
kno3 there seems a real lot cheaper than anywher else...

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Posted 07 March 2005 - 07:07 PM

KNO3 is even cheaper in agricultural shops.

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Posted 07 March 2005 - 07:46 PM

agreed, i know there are many many posts on the differing qualities but is technical grade around the same as agriultural grade? i always fell a bit less than stealthy going down to the local garden centre for a few kg of nitrate and some sulphur...always end up buying a couple of packs of fish food and a small shrub or whatever to be more subtl,e thus making it more expensive to me than even kno3.com is.

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Posted 07 March 2005 - 08:18 PM

the stuff in agricultural shop is fine for use in pyro.

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Posted 10 March 2005 - 05:05 PM

www.labpakchemicals.com/
anyoone use them? or know much about them?
kno3 there seems a real lot cheaper than anywher else...

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i have ordered kcl03 and zinc powder from them online, just had to fill in saying what i intended to do with it. i told the truth and about five days later they turned up at work and they worked fine. i did like the zinc hummer insert i made with these chems. as for kno3, go to a garden center.

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Posted 12 March 2005 - 08:56 PM

Its an odd one. Normally with data loss, you would loose more than one or two lines of an sql table. I would be very surprised if it managed to neatly "loose" an entry like that. But then again, stranger things have happened.

On the same topic as the phantom posts, i did a deal with Kno3.com a year or so ago, and although not the speediest service, and it took prompting, when i got the guy on the phone he seemed amicable, and i did get my order in the end. I think one should think twice about using the service, but it isnt all bad. (apart from the price :P )

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Posted 13 March 2005 - 12:00 AM

Sorry i got mixed up with my posts, it was a different topic that BigG deleted some entries from. Anyways, heres what i have from this topic in the form of topic reply notifications.

KNO3.COM has just posted a reply to a topic that you have subscribed to titled "Buying chemicals.".

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Hello I am the owner of kno3.com and for those of you that are worried about my record keeping!
My records are kept on 256 bit encrypted virtual drives and are fully password protected. Some items maybe watched but are not illegal to sell, I have shipped hundreds of packages out to the US and Canada each week with only 1 Package Seized in 9 months.

Without going into detail from my experience you have no need to worry about getting your order.

I Hope this has helped and if anybody would like to ask any questions please E-Mail from my web shop.

Thank You.

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No Offence but if you want custom from this forum you will need to lower your prices!

You are out to make ALOT of money fast!
http://www.ukrocketr...indpost&p=14545
We do not appreciate this! Also the admins dont like advertising!

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You're a crook.

You took my money for thermalite, sent nothing and did not return the money when requested.

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Never order from kno3.com!

I ordered 5 meters of pic fuse once, paid for it and never recieved it.
I tried to contact him but didn't get any replies to the emails I sent.

Richard H has just posted a reply to a topic that you have subscribed to titled "Buying chemicals.".

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Mr KNO3.com, when you registered you told me that

"I sell chemicals at kno3.com and after seeing some of the false information about my company i feel i have a right to reply. Also i know a lot about the chemicals that we sell maybe this will be enough for you to accept my membership?"

So either these people are lying (I somewhat doubt this) or you've got some explaining to do.
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broadsword has just posted a reply to a topic that you have subscribed to titled "Buying chemicals.".

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I agree you need some explaining to do!
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Andrew has just posted a reply to a topic that you have subscribed to titled "Buying chemicals.".

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Please note the below quote from Mr KNO3.com

QUOTE(Richard H @ Mar 6 2005, 04:32 PM)"I know a lot about the chemicals that we sell"

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I think that he is talking a bit of tosh. Look at the following link.

http://www.kno3.com/...t.asp?itemid=20

You seem to think that Potassium Permanganate is a "HIGHLY FLAMMABLE OXIDISER". I'd say that the person who wrote this lable knows jack sh*t about the chemicals you sell. Just to clarify, in simple talk, there is no such thing as an oxidiser that burns. Come on, that's a bit GCSE now isn't it! This mistake is made by people that do not know a thing about chemicals. I remember not too long ago a young new member asked "potassium nitrate....Shouldn't this stuff burn".



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Now if you will look at the following links;

http://www.kno3.com/...ct.asp?itemid=7
http://www.kno3.com/...mid=29&catid=34

One is for chlorate and the other is for perc. I think this might be a schoolboy error in your website, which in my opinion you paid far too much for. Has anyone ever purchased perc from this rip-off merchant before, if you have I?d check that he hasn't sold you Chlorate instead.

Not only is this commonly know as ?passing off?, but Mr KNO3.com may have put a lot of people, at a lot of risk if he has sold chlorate instead of perc. He may have put a lot of people in danger. He has jepodised the legal position of pyrotechnics if he has, could you imagine the bad press because of an accident, caused by an illegal chemical supplier. He has also jepodised the legal position of the entire chemical industry, new legislation would be proposed and all sorts.

I?d also check that it does not burn as well :lol: .



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QUOTE(KNO3.COM @ Mar 5 2005, 11:33 PM)
My records are kept on 256 bit encrypted virtual drives and are fully password protected.

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That's not really that secure now is it!!!

The only real secure way of holding information is to have it on your own server. And that does not mean your encrypted virtual drives in cyberspace, it means a firewalled server that you own, and is on your own premises.
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Andrew has just posted a reply to a topic that you have subscribed to titled "Buying chemicals.".

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QUOTE(Jerronimo @ Mar 6 2005, 03:18 PM)Never order from kno3.com!

I ordered 5 meters of pic fuse once, paid for it and never recieved it.
I tried to contact him but didn't get any replies to the emails I sent.

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QUOTE(alany @ Mar 6 2005, 10:49 AM)You're a crook.

You took my money for PIC, sent nothing for months and did not return the money when requested.

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I'd agree with rich and broadsword on this, it seems that you have defrauded a couple of forum members. You do have some explaining to do before anyone in their right mind would order any more PIC from you.


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Mr KNO3.com also sells Calcium oxide;

http://www.kno3.com/...t.asp?itemid=56

Unless he is actually selling ball milled citrus fruits, he is selling a very nasty corrosive. You really do not want to get a lung full of this, and then not know why you are boiling. I'm sure that Royal Mail love carrying this around in a baggy.
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Andrew has just posted a reply to a topic that you have subscribed to titled "Buying chemicals.".

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Just one more thing. All KNO3.com's chemicals seem to be in very high demand, sound like the chemicals are flying off the shelves, not at those prices! Could you imagine if they could only do it at the "Retail price".
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Thats all the lost posts i can find. Sorry for the long post, but i thought i'd make the effort if it aids data recovery.

Edited by BigG, 08 March 2006 - 08:47 AM.





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