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#811 Pretty green flames

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Posted 07 February 2006 - 03:25 PM

Hey guys, you remember the shell i was talking about some pages back, well i finally got to fire it it.

All in all it was pretty much great, the timing was spot on and so was the lift. But the filming....just don't let me get started on that matter. Anyway the cameraman got the lift and some stars which is good.

As you will see the break sucked terribly, all got blown out at one side .

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#812 al93535

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Posted 15 February 2006 - 08:21 AM

Construction pics of my 6" double petal shell:

Here are the hemi's
http://img.photobuck...93535/6hemi.jpg

Filled with stars:
http://img.photobuck...535/6filled.jpg

Burst:
http://img.photobuck...3535/6burst.jpg

Inner petal:
http://img.photobuck...6innerpetal.jpg

Inner burst:
http://img.photobuck...6innerburst.jpg

40mm Rising shells:
http://img.photobuck...l93535/40mm.jpg


The outter petal is green to red to dragons eggs, and the inner petal is winokur39 glitter. The outter petal should burn for 4 seconds, and the inner for 1.5. The rising shells will burst at 1.7 seconds, then every 1.4 seconds later. The main shell should ignite at 5.5 seconds. I will post pics of the completed shell with small flowers as soon as its done.
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#813 Frozentech

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Posted 15 February 2006 - 08:43 AM

That is looking out-freaking-standing ! That should be one excellent shell. I am going to have to start making a few larger shells regardless of the amount of chems it eats up, you just can't fit the rich effects in the small ones. Of course we will get to see video when you shoot ?
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#814 al93535

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Posted 15 February 2006 - 08:55 AM

Absolutely there will be video, in fact two, from different distances. :)

I left out a few details, the burst is BP meal on rise crispies 4:1. The shell weighs in at 1318 grams, and still needs 6 more layers of pasting. Each of the rising shells weighs about 45 grams. The first rising shell to light will be blue stars, the second green and charcoal streamers, and the third contains steel stars. I will use 1/15th the weight of the shell as lift, and yes I made the lift myself. I added one gram of flash as a booster, and I am pasting on 8 layers of 70lb recycled kraft which overlaps 1/2, so really it will be like 16 layers. The rising shells are using amercian visco as timefuse, and the main shell japanese 1/4" timefuse.

Edited by al93535, 15 February 2006 - 09:29 AM.

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#815 Creepin_pyro

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Posted 15 February 2006 - 09:29 AM

I've yet to see an amateur shell with rising effects - it's all looking very promising! What have you put in the rising shells? Can't wait for the videos!

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Posted 15 February 2006 - 10:57 AM

Very tasty shell! will be interesting to see it shoot, are you attaching the rising effects to a rope onto of the shell? Like the way you are using traditional methods of construction. I still have to fill and paste my 6 inch shell up. Hope your shell works ok, looking forward to the firing :D

One thing you need to watch for is the inner petal flumping out the outer petal, i generaly use bp burst in outer petal and kp burst in the inner. Flash may do the trick though.

Edited by karlfoxman, 15 February 2006 - 11:00 AM.


#817 italteen3

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Posted 15 February 2006 - 02:58 PM

Wow that looks very impressive! I hope all goes off well and you have a ton of fun firing it.

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Posted 16 February 2006 - 06:20 AM

Construction pics of my 6" double petal shell:

Here are the hemi's
http://img.photobuck...93535/6hemi.jpg

Filled with stars:
http://img.photobuck...535/6filled.jpg

Burst:
http://img.photobuck...3535/6burst.jpg

Inner petal:
http://img.photobuck...6innerpetal.jpg

Inner burst:
http://img.photobuck...6innerburst.jpg

40mm Rising shells:
http://img.photobuck...l93535/40mm.jpg
The outter petal is green to red to dragons eggs, and the inner petal is winokur39 glitter. The outter petal should burn for 4 seconds, and the inner for 1.5. The rising shells will burst at 1.7 seconds, then every 1.4 seconds later. The main shell should ignite at 5.5 seconds. I will post pics of the completed shell with small flowers as soon as its done.


Yep, definitely looking forward to the video on that one...

When do you plan on firing it?

#819 JamesH

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Posted 16 February 2006 - 12:12 PM

Construction pics of my 6" double petal shell:

Here are the hemi's
http://img.photobuck...93535/6hemi.jpg

Filled with stars:
http://img.photobuck...535/6filled.jpg

Burst:
http://img.photobuck...3535/6burst.jpg

Inner petal:
http://img.photobuck...6innerpetal.jpg

Inner burst:
http://img.photobuck...6innerburst.jpg

40mm Rising shells:
http://img.photobuck...l93535/40mm.jpg
The outter petal is green to red to dragons eggs, and the inner petal is winokur39 glitter. The outter petal should burn for 4 seconds, and the inner for 1.5. The rising shells will burst at 1.7 seconds, then every 1.4 seconds later. The main shell should ignite at 5.5 seconds. I will post pics of the completed shell with small flowers as soon as its done.


Great work! The hemi's seem very well formed, what method did you use to produce them? Did you use 1g of flash in each hemi or 1g total? What burst do you use for the 40mm shells?
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#820 al93535

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Posted 17 February 2006 - 06:23 AM

Update on my shell, here are pics of it almost finished. It just needs a leader and lift cup.

http://img.photobuck...6inchrising.jpg

http://img.photobuck...inchrising1.jpg

I made the hemi's by pasting paper over a 6" plastic shell. There is one gram total flash in the shell. The small shells are broke with 4fa BP. The stars are filled to the top of each hemi, then then all the space is filled with 4fa. I am not sure exactly when I will be lighting it, pretty soon though.

Edit: Finished pics:

http://img.photobuck...6inchfinish.jpg

http://img.photobuck...inchfinish1.jpg

http://img.photobuck...inchfinish2.jpg

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Total shell weight: 1550 grams
Lift: -6 +12 mesh, 103 grams.

Edited by al93535, 17 February 2006 - 09:42 AM.

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Posted 17 February 2006 - 09:55 PM

WOW that shell looks AMAZING! Cant wait to see the video!!! Hope you have a ton of fun with that. Very professional looking.

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Posted 18 February 2006 - 11:45 AM

Yeah, definately the first shell with small shells as the rising effect! Really looking forweard to see that thing in action!

I bet it will be alot of fun!

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#823 Frozentech

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Posted 18 February 2006 - 06:34 PM

Yeah, definately the first shell with small shells as the rising effect! Really looking forweard to see that thing in action!

I bet it will be alot of fun!


Al has made a perfect looking version of Takeo Shimizu's "ascending small flowers" effect. In F.A.S.T. there is also an interesting looking effect called "ascending thunder" with 5 salutes staggered on a hemp hanger. This is another good reason to step up to a larger shell, so I have room to work with :)

SO when is the launch ? Can't wait to see that video, great looking shell.
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Posted 01 March 2006 - 05:00 AM

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Edited by al93535, 09 August 2006 - 06:30 PM.

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Posted 01 March 2006 - 08:06 AM

wow that was incredable! I thought the final break was perfect, I don't understand what you thought was wrong with it. I just wish I could have seen it in person
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