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[completebeginner]

i had an idea one day on how to make those nija smoke balls you see in the movies using sugar potassium chlorate and sulfur now i know that chlorate and sulfur mixture are sensitive to impact and friction but the point wouild be that i would make a poof of smoke on impact. would the mixture just explode and if i mixed amounts around 5 grams at a time with less sulfur would it be safer? or should i just abandon the idea altogether?

[sizzle]

Well mixing chlorates and sulphur is not a good idea under any circumstances, I would drop the idea personally before you end up blowing your hand off. Try using a KNO3/Sugar comp with perhaps some form of phosphorus to ignite it on impact

[completebeginner]

like a strike anywhere matchhead? because i dont have access to phosphorus i have access to kno3 sugar charcoal sulfur potassium chlorate and whatever metals i grind up

[alany]

"Ninja Smoke Devices" are largely a myth, it is hard to make something that small produce a large enough quantity of smoke that rapidly. The movies aint real life kiddies!

Discussion of impact initiated devices (torpedeos) is somewhat verboten on this forum, however if you really have you heart set on it then my only suggestion is to limit the sensitive composition to the ignition system only. That way only tiny quantities of sensitive material are required. A safety system is also pretty much manditory, like a removable pin that prevents an firing pin from moving and impacting the anvil. If you've engineered it that much you may as well just use a pull-string ignition system.

You do not need and should not even consider using Phosphorus or hacking SAW matches. I don't think a cherry cup full of gravel and a chlorate comp will cut it for this application either. I don't believe either of you have the experence to by attempting this project just yet.

[completebeginner]

well thanks for keeping me from hurting myself it was jus an idea so thanks for the advice

[sizzle]

A good smoke b**b to begin with is a KNO3/Sugar (60/40) mix melted and poured into a Pyro tube with a 3" Black Match. You can even make coloured smoke providing you have the right chemicals.

[completebeginner]

i have already made a kno3 sugar smoke b**b and i dont have the right chemicals to make colored smoke i have checked many composition databases