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#1 r.burgy

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Posted 14 October 2005 - 04:05 AM

Ive already ball milled my bp.which method is preferred for making lift? i have access to a press,and a sifter.
Is there a better method.about what size mesh for lift?

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Posted 14 October 2005 - 07:16 AM

corned BP has a few advantages compared to riced BP...

- the BP gains efficiecy
- the single grains are sturdier
- no need for a binder, as the press is able to form a rockhard puck by the pressure itself

only downside is that its a little more work :glare: but in my opinion its sure worth it.

the meshsize for the lift depends on the shell you want to lift - the heavier the shell, the larger the grains.

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Posted 14 October 2005 - 07:38 AM

I and one other person have found probllems lifting larger/heavier shells with riced bp charges. The problem occurs on ignition, where the strength of the grains is not enough. The granules get blasted to a fine powder and creating an unwanted ammount of power, we have blown the bottom out of a 4inch mortar lifting a 4inch cylinder shell weighing 600g. At some point we shall be making a press, if anyone has an unwanted bottle jack please pm me. Riced grains are fine for lifting smaller 3 inch spherical shells we have found.

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#4 r.burgy

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Posted 14 October 2005 - 12:18 PM

after you have riced bp. can you remoisten and press it,or is that not wise?

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Posted 14 October 2005 - 12:35 PM

after you have riced bp. can you remoisten and press it,or is that not wise?

every time you use water, you slightly change the balance of your composition - this is simply because some of the chemicals dissolve and carry away with water excess. The more times you go through re-cycling, the more different the composition is. I guess one re-cycling is probably acceptable, but if you want repeatable results, just use the fine staff as BP in fountains or drivers.

#6 r.burgy

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Posted 14 October 2005 - 12:46 PM

thank you gentlemen.
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#7 Draco_Americanus

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Posted 14 October 2005 - 01:33 PM

Any one know a way to estimate when you have 2 tons of force from a bottle jack that's capable of 6 tons? What happens if you use too much pressure?

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Posted 14 October 2005 - 03:50 PM

Not sure how to estimate.. but one of the American Pyro suppliers has a nice little device you place between the jack and whatever and it shows just how much force is being used. Some of the better tool companies may have simular devices.

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Posted 14 October 2005 - 03:57 PM

Here's a link to one on Harolds page:

http://deskmedia.com...tbn/HAROLD1.htm




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