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[Joe b]

Hi,

Has anyone used a boilie roller/boilie maker for rolling round stars if so did you have any success with them.

And if you don't know a boilie roller is something you use in fishing to roll boilies which is used as a bait.

Some rollers on eBay.
8mm roller on eBay here
14mm & 18mm roller on eBay here
15mm roller on eBay here
20mm & 22mm roller on eBay here

Tell me what you think if they would be any good for rolling round stars

Thanks Joe

[Pretty green flames]

How does this work?

[Joe b]

Well basically you roll a sausage shape with your star mix the length needs to be a bit bigger than the width of the rolling board i aint tried this yet since i am just about to buy one.

should look like this:


you can use a boilie sausage gun like

not sure if this would work with star mix tho depends on the mix.

Image of what the finished product should look like:


Joe


Edit: just bought my boilie roller ill do some testing when i get it and tell every one how it goes.

Edited by Joe b, 21 October 2007 - 02:12 PM.

[Andrew]

That really is a good idea.

You'd have to add something to your star composition to make it pliable and have the properties that are required for such rolling. A bit of playing around with the compositions should prove successful I expect.

The fish baits usually have a binder in that is far superior to the binders used in compositions in terms of adhesion and pliability.

Do report on how well it goes.

[Pretty green flames]

Yes, please let us know how it works, if it works fine i might just buy the 8 and 15mm ones.

PGF

[W.P]

I'm very much interested in the 8mm set. If anyone can find a supplier of these rollers then please do post.

[Mortartube]

This is exactly the same type of machine that Victorian pharmacists used to roll pills and tablets. It might work with a viscous solution of gum arabic as a binder.

[Arthur Brown]

Looks good! Just watch the compound's dampness compatibilities, some star compounds don't work if they have ever been too wet.

This will of course only make its one size of stars. A star roller will allow you to make various sizes and then you can roll again with a second compound for colour changing stars

[W.P]

However, you can use these rollers THEN roll a composition onto a star if you have difficulty rolling compositions with small cores.

[W.P]

http://www.kenttackl...ze_828_prd1.htm

8mm Roller for £8.99, I'm buying this then I'll report back.

[Mumbles]

I think that SGRS or CMC may be the binders of choice. SGRS gives a much more pliable and plastic like substance when I'm cutting as opposed to dextrin, well at least my home made dextrin. CMC is something people have been using in BP lately to improve flaking resistance and enhance adhesion.

[edit] scratch the CMC comment. I forgot that it's SODIUM carboxymethylcellulose. If you use it, I hope you like yellow. It may work for charcoal streamer comps though.

Edited by Mumbles, 22 October 2007 - 05:19 AM.

[paul]

http://www.kenttackl...ze_828_prd1.htm

8mm Roller for £8.99, I'm buying this then I'll report back.

The 8mm boilie board looks good enough. I just asked then about shipping costs to germany. If it´s not too expensive I´ll buy one as well...

[pyrotrev]

I think that SGRS or CMC may be the binders of choice. SGRS gives a much more pliable and plastic like substance when I'm cutting as opposed to dextrin, well at least my home made dextrin. CMC is something people have been using in BP lately to improve flaking resistance and enhance adhesion.

[edit] scratch the CMC comment. I forgot that it's SODIUM carboxymethylcellulose. If you use it, I hope you like yellow. It may work for charcoal streamer comps though.

There are other carboxymethylcellulose and cellulose derivative binders apart from the sodium variety - I mean to investigate some when the busy season is over. Most are characterised by making quite viscous solutions at low concentrations (5% or less).

Full marks Joe for a very interesting idea!

Edited by pyrotrev, 23 October 2007 - 01:03 PM.

[Andrew]

You need good adhesion as well as low tack. I'm guessing it'll be a real fine art to get right.

[paul]

I think it is a thing you can do! Maybe alot of finetuning but hey! Let´s try it! I have to pay 22€ (31.6USD) for a 8mm plate... Quite expensive but hey: Pyro is my hobby, other guys put a few hounded euros into computer hardware or other "crap"