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[djsansom]

I am somewhat new to pyro and have been browsing some yankee firework sites and recently have come across cat3 reloadable mortars on sale!
why do we not have these here in the uk? were they banned the same time as airbombs and such like, or have we never had them here? i dont remember ever seeing them! but like i said i am (new to pyro)
If they are gone for good thats a shame they look like fun!!!

[dr thrust]

i guess we dont have them, because there would be gangs of "yobs" shooting each other with them! ive seen them in the states they are good!

[djsansom]

i guess we dont have them, because there would be gangs of "yobs" shooting each other with them! ive seen them in the states they are good!

Thought they had guns for that now! may aswell relegalise them then!!!
..............................so you dont know when they were banned then?

[dr thrust]

i dont know if we ever had them? some of the "older" people on the forum may know , i can only remember back to the mid seventy's

[djsansom]

i dont know if we ever had them? some of the "older" people on the forum may know , i can only remember back to the mid seventy's

no worries mate! i cant remember ever seeing them either, guess they still available for cat4 display use though, larger too!

[Joe b]

Lidl did sell them once but they had problems with them and they are ment to be banned from the uk...

[W.P]

They are highly dangerous to the general public because of the nature of the firework. I won't go into detail but one thing I must say is that personally I prefer that they aren't on sale here, way too dangerous to the inexperienced.

[djsansom]

They are highly dangerous to the general public because of the nature of the firework. I won't go into detail but one thing I must say is that personally I prefer that they aren't on sale here, way too dangerous to the inexperienced.

please ellaborate !

[David]

I believe they were banned from sale in 1997, following two accidents, one of which invloved a Headmaster if you click the link it takes you to the story.

I agree with what the posters above have said- they are very dangerous- searches of this years news acrhieves and You Tube will help you find out more.

Edited by David, 30 October 2007 - 07:08 PM.

[djsansom]

I believe they were banned from sale in 1997, following two accidents, one of which invloved a Headmaster if you click the link it takes you to the story.

I agree with what the posters above have said- they are very dangerous- searches of this years news acrhieves and You Tube will help you find out more.

thats tragic......thanks i will check out da youtube!

[Arthur Brown]

American regulations are different across their states and counties, and VERY different from UK regs. They are allowed shells below 2" on the consumer market in some places and not allowed bottle rockets in other places.

[David]

American regulations are different across their states and counties, and VERY different from UK regs. They are allowed shells below 2" on the consumer market in some places and not allowed bottle rockets in other places.

This is by no means a complete explaination, but the differences by state are partly due to environmental reasons. Some states get very, very dry and are heavily wooded/planted, as such fireworks would be a real danger especially during the summer months. Other states, such as South Carolina, are much wetter so allow firework sales across the range.

That said, the usual reason for banning mortars is that they are dangerous, especially loadable mortars. I've never seen one, but I assume you light the fuse and then put it in the tube.

[cooperman435]

I think with the name some are a little confused.

This post is about shell packs that come with a mortar tube in a box surely?

There still sold just not in the uk any more but they definatly were as I remember buying shells myself.

shells up to 3" (and maybe 4") used to be sold to the general public but the first year I was old enough to buy them (well actually afford them) was the last year they wer allowed as cat 3 and I remember reading of the headmaster accident that contributed to their reclasification.

David.... They are just as shells are now I believe though I apreciate I never bought these specific units so could be mistaken.

[djsansom]

I think with the name some are a little confused.

This post is about shell packs that come with a mortar tube in a box surely?

There still sold just not in the uk any more but they definatly were as I remember buying shells myself.

shells up to 3" (and maybe 4") used to be sold to the general public but the first year I was old enough to buy them (well actually afford them) was the last year they wer allowed as cat 3 and I remember reading of the headmaster accident that contributed to their reclasification.

David.... They are just as shells are now I believe though I apreciate I never bought these specific units so could be mistaken.

yes thats right i was referring to shells that come with a mortar tube in a box!
I have only seen them in pictures so how do they rate up to other aerial bursts? ie are they bigger more impressive than larger cat3 rockets or 30mm cakes? i would imagine that they are packed with the good stuff!

[djsansom]

oh yeah loving the fireworks code! thats exactly what i was thinking of doing especially after seeing pics of the 100mm minster mine going off that i got probably skip the count to three though! lol just run run run