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#1 Monkey

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Posted 12 November 2007 - 06:03 PM

Hi all, Im board and need something to do, but the only chemicals i have are potassium nitrate and aluminum powder.
And i was just wondering if i was able to make a weak flash powder from these. or if i didnt use the sulpher what would the reaction be? Its been 3 god damn weeks since i ordered my sulpher and i need to experiment with something! :(

#2 maxman

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Posted 12 November 2007 - 06:16 PM

Why order Sulphur? Just call in any garden center cheap and off the shelf :P

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Posted 12 November 2007 - 08:09 PM

and i need to experiment with something


The more anxious and quick you are to progress in pyrotechnics the more likely you are to kill yourself. Take time, slow down, the period in which you are waiting for your sulphur to arrive is precious time in which you could read up on pyrotechnics and potentially avoid a fatal mistake.

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Posted 12 November 2007 - 08:14 PM

First off, you really should not be making flash this early on, Make BP first, experiment for at least 6 months before even considering flash. I've made flash powder about five times in my entire life.

Why order Sulphur? Just call in any garden center cheap and off the shelf :P


Because that would be flowers of sulphur; which is not ideally suited to Pyrotechnic compositions.

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Posted 12 November 2007 - 08:25 PM

Use the time to learn! learn about chemical supplies, formulae, mixing and use and safety.

I make no appologies for ruining your next meal but http://come.to/pfp this sort of thing comes to people who rush pyro and especially flash. Flash is probably more dangerous than high exp1osive as it is very sensitive.
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#6 icarus

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Posted 12 November 2007 - 11:34 PM

hi why not make some kno3/ sugar rockets cat litter (bentonite ) or fire clay nozzles - rockets are a lot more challenging pm me if you want any advice i,m not that far away flash powder has its limited uses if you want an interesting banging firework once you have good black powder make a jumping jack
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#7 YT2095

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Posted 13 November 2007 - 07:59 AM

in fact unless you have some Boric acid, you don`t even have enough ingredients to make Flash Powder properly!

so you`re better off waiting until you get your sulpher and start with BP anyway :)
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Posted 16 November 2007 - 05:49 AM

Hi all, Im board and need something to do, but the only chemicals i have are potassium nitrate and aluminum powder.
And i was just wondering if i was able to make a weak flash powder from these. or if i didnt use the sulpher what would the reaction be? Its been 3 god damn weeks since i ordered my sulpher and i need to experiment with something! :(


Just be cautious.

Flash powder can be made with just aluminum and potassium nitrate in ratios of 7.7/2.3, but I just use 6/2. This won't be as loud as 5/3/2 but it'll still make noise and lots of light if that's what you're looking for.

Maybe you should get some black powder. Launching these things into the air makes better effectiveness in sound overall, the sound is much moer widespread in the air.

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Posted 16 November 2007 - 09:43 AM

the problem doing it that way without the Boric stabiliser is that you Then end up with something that can go off at Anytime without provocation or apparent cause!

it`s not something I would risk unless it was at milligram scale and on an open plate.
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Posted 16 November 2007 - 11:16 PM

it doesnt go off often just once normally!!! seriously though kno3/sugar rocket till you get sulphur for bp hand wind your case use clay or fire putty for a nozzle look at richard nakkas rocketry site add some wax to mix for white smoke pot enjoy!!!
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Posted 16 November 2007 - 11:57 PM

I beg your pardon?

#12 Bonny

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Posted 18 November 2007 - 11:00 PM

it doesnt go off often just once normally!!! seriously though kno3/sugar rocket till you get sulphur for bp hand wind your case use clay or fire putty for a nozzle look at richard nakkas rocketry site add some wax to mix for white smoke pot enjoy!!!



Seriously, can you do everyone a favour and try to use some punctuation and grammar?? It would make your "advice" or questions much easier to understand.

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Posted 18 November 2007 - 11:46 PM

makes sence to me :) , anyway everbody's missing the point! when he gets the sulphur its going to sensitze his flash and thats not a good idea, dont do it! . grit your teeth and wait for your chems ( we've all had to do it) and start with making bp ,that will use up plenty of your time, i know! . iv'e not made half the things i want to yet :lol:

Edited by chris m, 18 November 2007 - 11:47 PM.


#14 MDH

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Posted 19 November 2007 - 01:04 PM

That being said you can make half the things you want with black powder, a file and some aluminum foil.

Including...

Salutes
Fountains
Comets
Launching/lifting powder
Rockets
Wheel Drivers
Fuse
Stars
Sparklers
Smoke

I think that's about it. I think...

And you can write your name with a thin trail of black powder in a piece of paper and ignite it.

:D

Edited by MDH, 19 November 2007 - 01:09 PM.


#15 Bonny

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Posted 19 November 2007 - 06:51 PM

makes sence to me :) , anyway everbody's missing the point! when he gets the sulphur its going to sensitze his flash and thats not a good idea, dont do it! . grit your teeth and wait for your chems ( we've all had to do it) and start with making bp ,that will use up plenty of your time, i know! . iv'e not made half the things i want to yet :lol:



Yes it is possible to figure out the idea being conveyed. I know myself and many others are guilty of asking before searching, but the forum in general is easier to learn from and looks much better when spelling and grammar etc... are properly used. Even breaking a message into full sentences is better than a jumbled mess paragraph.
See Richard H's post:
http://www.pyrosocie...p?showtopic=298

Edited by Bonny, 19 November 2007 - 11:00 PM.





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