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#1 Arthur Brown

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Posted 17 November 2007 - 08:44 PM

Looking for info on writing with fuel soaked rope.

What is the rope? Where do I get it from? What is the fuel -kerosene, diesel.... ?
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Posted 17 November 2007 - 11:28 PM

You probably want to use the rope that fire breathers and fire dancers use. It can be found in many internet shops.
Hers's one example.
http://www.firetoys...._fire_rope.html

The fuel would be kerosene.

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Posted 18 November 2007 - 07:47 AM

Looking at that site it says that the preferred fuel is paraffin.

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Posted 18 November 2007 - 10:15 AM

Paraffin is used more for fire breating since it is not toxic. Kerosene produces bigger and brighter flames.

#5 Arthur Brown

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Posted 18 November 2007 - 11:22 AM

At £14+ a metre this makes the 40 letters at 20 inches high quite expensive :(
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Posted 18 November 2007 - 01:16 PM

At £14+ a metre this makes the 40 letters at 20 inches high quite expensive :(


Yes fire ropes are quite expensive. Although you probably dont need that thick one. A 9mm rope shoudl be sufficient for you use.
http://www.firetoys.....html#aFF_2f9MM

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Posted 18 November 2007 - 01:18 PM

Ive not had any experience directly with this field but wouldnt fire sealing rope be of use? its cheaper than that and fireproof too?

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Posted 18 November 2007 - 01:35 PM

just a thought, and I know it`s non of my business but if it`s what I think it`s for (something you mentioned when we met on the 5`th), could you get away with something more re-usable?

I`m thinking 1/4 inch copper pipe (available at most builders merchants) end capped and drilled along it, then mounted to a board or mesh (jubilee clips), and then a Propane tank the other end.

there`s a guy on here (can rem his nick) that does this sort of thing professionally he might be able to help if it`s suitable for you goal?

if it`s no good as an Idea just ignore this :)
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#9 Arthur Brown

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Posted 18 November 2007 - 02:16 PM

I was hoping that this could be cheaper than buying the lances and doing the lancework but maybe lances are a better option.

Does anyone on here do lancework as a speciality?
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Posted 18 November 2007 - 02:16 PM

just a thought, and I know it`s non of my business but if it`s what I think it`s for (something you mentioned when we met on the 5`th), could you get away with something more re-usable?

I`m thinking 1/4 inch copper pipe (available at most builders merchants) end capped and drilled along it, then mounted to a board or mesh (jubilee clips), and then a Propane tank the other end.

there`s a guy on here (can rem his nick) that does this sort of thing professionally he might be able to help if it`s suitable for you goal?

if it`s no good as an Idea just ignore this :)



Thats a bit hard to work with if you know what I mean, a lot of work required. Not cheap with the rising price of copper :)

Edited by marble, 18 November 2007 - 02:18 PM.


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Posted 18 November 2007 - 02:36 PM

Not sure what you are trying to do, but for fire drawings (several feet high), we use paraffin-soaked paper rope.

The rope we use is "Supersoft" from these guys: http://www.somic.co....ids -161-0.aspx

Comes in bales of 25m and differing diameters.

What they don't tell you when you order is that if you order at least 2 or 3 bales at once, the price drops considerably compared to ordering just one bale.

Last order we did was for 75m and came in at £1/m plus VAT plus postage (£9)

Might not be suitable for a small lettering job.

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Posted 18 November 2007 - 02:46 PM

Thats a bit hard to work with if you know what I mean, a lot of work required. Not cheap with the rising price of copper :)


it would be if it was for One-Off sure, as for the copper I bought the same pipe for my Tesla Primary coil and it cost me £3.70 for 20 feet!

anyway, back to topic, I don`t want to derail.
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#13 Arthur Brown

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Posted 18 November 2007 - 04:02 PM

Paper rope was one thought, as I had heard of its use before. The aramid rope is a silly price for a one-off disposable job but the paper rope can just fall away as it loses it's strength!
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Posted 18 November 2007 - 09:23 PM

Not tried paper rope for intricate work, but for fire drawings (see booom.org.uk for simple examples), it is perfect.

We use HERAS security fence panels as support and attach the rope to the wire mesh with sack ties. Burns and stays in tact for good 10 minutes.

The smallest dia rope we use is around 40mm, but if SOMIC do smaller stuff, could be worth a try for your lettering.

Tis cheap (ish) and very quick to construct drawing.

Ofcourse, lancework is much more defined and multi-colourful. Depends what the customer wants really.

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Posted 19 November 2007 - 06:34 PM

At £14+ a metre this makes the 40 letters at 20 inches high quite expensive :(


They're trying to rip you off: £1.50/meter would be more normal if you're buying a reasonable length.
Trying to do something very beautiful but very dangerous very safely....




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