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[skyrocket]

i would like to ask, what is the general rate that firers should get paid please

[portfire]

American $, but I think you'll get the idea

http://blogs.payscal...echnician_.html

[Bonny]

American $, but I think you'll get the idea

http://blogs.payscal...echnician_.html

I think it is anywhere from about 10% to 14% of the total cost of the show, depending on level of involvement. That is only as the lead (supervisor). I don't think apprentices get paid, at least not where I'm from.

[Arthur Brown]

LOTS depends on how competent you are and how confident the proprietor is in you. Also is it a quick 1 hour rig and fire and then just take the tubes away, or is it a 10 hour day with a full litter pick to completely clear?

On a big show there is a possibility that the lowest assistant firers will not get paid but will get some experience to progress later. For a commercial contract the look at the minimum wage rules and start there

[pyrotrev]

Only a 10 hour day? that's a bit lightweight isn't it?

[pyromania2]

i would like to ask, what is the general rate that firers should get paid please

Whilst there isn't a set rate as far as I know, the average rates are between £90 - £125 dependant on experience and responsibility.

[skyrocket]

LOTS depends on how competent you are and how confident the proprietor is in you. Also is it a quick 1 hour rig and fire and then just take the tubes away, or is it a 10 hour day with a full litter pick to completely clear?

On a big show there is a possibility that the lowest assistant firers will not get paid but will get some experience to progress later. For a commercial contract the look at the minimum wage rules and start there

most of the displays are a couple of hours rig and full clean up,

[skyrocket]

Whilst there isn't a set rate as far as I know, the average rates are between £90 - £125 dependant on experience and responsibility.

thanks

[Spyrotechnics]

anywhere from about 10% to 14% of the total cost of the show

I think you will find thats the TOTAL staff budget, not an individuals rate

[skyrocket]

I think you will find thats the TOTAL staff budget, not an individuals rate

ok thanks i dont want to seem like i am in it for just the money as this isnt the case as i love fireworks, just got to be careful these days with the cost of fuel getting to these events just making sure i dont lose out thats all, which you can understand i am sure.

[Arthur Brown]

These days it's important to have at least a written invitation onto the firing site -OK just an email to say come on saturday! If yu are invited into a work place then the employer's insurance should cover you as an invited visitor, if you are employed then there should be insurance as a worker. If there is no invitation or contract then there is a grey area. There is also the minimum wage legislation to consider, If an employer doesn't provide the minimum rate of pay then they start to commit offences in law. Most recruited firers of riggers are likely to be seen as casual employees rather than self employed people.

[Bonny]

I think you will find thats the TOTAL staff budget, not an individuals rate

Yes I think that is the case, but on smaller shows there is usually only 1 supervisor and apprentices are rarely paid.

[Spyrotechnics]

yes, seems that over the pond things are organised slightly differently with the Lead Firer being given the responsibility and the resources to hire/organise the crew for the display, so their "rates" are for the entire team.

In this country its seems the norm for the actual company to organise the crew and for them to set a daily rate for "helpers" and a higher rate for the "lead firer"

[Bonny]

yes, seems that over the pond things are organised slightly differently with the Lead Firer being given the responsibility and the resources to hire/organise the crew for the display, so their "rates" are for the entire team.

In this country its seems the norm for the actual company to organise the crew and for them to set a daily rate for "helpers" and a higher rate for the "lead firer"

I'm not sure how it is done on larger shows here, if all the supervisors are paid or not. Most likely some of them are , and as you said the lead being paid the most. As for apprenticing, the main requirement is volunteering at shows.

[skyrocket]

I'm not sure how it is done on larger shows here, if all the supervisors are paid or not. Most likely some of them are , and as you said the lead being paid the most. As for apprenticing, the main requirement is volunteering at shows.

ok thanks, what if you have taken the BPA exam and passed it you should get paid after this as i am aware shouldnt you ?