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#16 pihop

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Posted 19 August 2008 - 07:48 PM

I use mustard seeds!
Nothing beats mustard seeds.
If I use 1,5 teaspoons full I need at least 1kg (2lb) of comp.

#17 pyroduck7

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Posted 19 August 2008 - 09:17 PM

I use mustard seeds!
Nothing beats mustard seeds.
If I use 1,5 teaspoons full I need at least 1kg (2lb) of comp.



do you hand roll?

#18 bigtonyicu

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Posted 19 August 2008 - 09:17 PM

I use mustard seeds!
Nothing beats mustard seeds.
If I use 1,5 teaspoons full I need at least 1kg (2lb) of comp.



I've used mustard also, works well, but be patient at first it often looks like you're doing nothing; initial reaction in to keep moistning DONT give it time, make sure your initial powder is VERY FINE or else it won't stick, for larger stars peper corn work beautifuly.

#19 pihop

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Posted 19 August 2008 - 09:45 PM

do you hand roll?


Nope! :huh:

#20 RegimentalPyro

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Posted 20 August 2008 - 05:46 AM

Use dragons eggs as cores. That way you get a nice crackle at the end of your shellburst.

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Posted 20 August 2008 - 07:26 AM

pyroduck7 Posted Aug 15 2008, 05:37 AM
thanks il try that out! but anouther problem im haveing is that when im rolling thay are not round there like willy wonker everlasting gobstoppers! there all bumpy and stuff. it might be because on the side of my wok there are tiny dimples


When stars do that it is called "spiking" - a popular word in firework building. Causes can be that your chemicals are too fine, or that there is too little solvent. Black powder stars (which in my loose definition includes Charcoal streamers) are notorious for spiking easily, probably because they can need so much water to get them to roll properly.

Some people swear by dampening their star mix and granulating and then crushing again, if it is safe to do so then a few minutes in a ball mill will work. This creates many small grains that looks like a powder but should roll better. Personally I have not done this as I have found that adding more solvent prevents excessive spiking.

Use dragons eggs as cores. That way you get a nice crackle at the end of your shellburst.


Flash cores, strobes, or small cut coloured stars also work well.
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#22 Bonny

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Posted 20 August 2008 - 04:17 PM

I use pepper corns or quinoa seeds/grains. The quinoa tends to make a bit of a mess falling out of my nascar(tire) style roller until they gain enough comp to stay in the bottom. the pepper corns work great, but are a bit large.
One of these days I will try using some dragon eggs.

#23 pyroduck7

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Posted 20 August 2008 - 05:40 PM

how will you roll the dragons eggs though haaha

#24 bigtonyicu

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Posted 20 August 2008 - 07:07 PM

how will you roll the dragons eggs though haaha


you don't roll them, you cut or press them

Edited by bigtonyicu, 20 August 2008 - 07:07 PM.


#25 seymour

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Posted 21 August 2008 - 12:20 AM

Or granulate into the star roller to make them.
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#26 Pyrogeorge

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Posted 07 January 2009 - 04:53 PM

I used lead shot cores..and i made it hand roll :)
I bought 1kg for 4euro
100 shots = 2,9gr

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and the round stars..

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Edited by pipipi, 07 January 2009 - 04:56 PM.


#27 deathruddles

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Posted 04 February 2009 - 10:53 PM

Hello By the way, i'm new!

wouldn't using lead mean that you'd need more lift?

Also wouldn't the increased weight at the centre of the star create a deformed spread pattern?

#28 Mumbles

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Posted 05 February 2009 - 04:16 AM

If you go by pipipi's values, the lead would add a negligible amount of mass to the shell. 2.9g is nothing unless you're making 1" shells. Nope it doesn't ruin the pattern in the least.

There was some concern about fall out, but I've never heard anyone actually confirming this fear. It will be molten and probably break apart into harmless (physically) particles. There is also the environmental issue.




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