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[David]

(OK, a bit of background. Where I live is a rather dull Lancashire village. We arn't on a bus or train route, and there are no pubs/hotels/shops near by, nor are we in an area used by hikers or campers. My street is basically a Cul-De-Sac, most of the residents being older people.)

Now- to begin. I spent the evening , and into the night at a friend's house watching a DVD of the excellent 1992 drama "Ghost watch." (One word, but this forum edits the word tw at) Cut a long story short, this sort of thing puts images in your head. Sets the mind thinking about the supernatural. Anyway, I stayed until 2.30am, and left to drive home on what must be the wettest night of the year- the rain is pouring down. As I turned into my street I saw a figure standing in the middle of the road. Despite the wet weather, she was only wearing a sleaveless top (and trousers, obviously), and was standing supported by 2 crutches- and standing in the middle of the road. Given what was we had been doing earlier in the evening, I was rather jumpy, so drove on. Anyway, on reaching my house (which is accessed by a 90 degree turn and a further stretch of street) I felt I had been rather un-noble, so turned round to see if she might like a lift, or if I could 'phone for a taxi for her. So, and her comes the odd part- I turned round , drove back up and she wasn't there.

Now, logically there are several things that could have happened. Firstly she could have been waiting for a lift, or a taxi, which arrived just after I saw her. But for this to be the case the car would have had to pick her up, do a three point turn, and drive off in less than a minute (I was very quick to return) - and I didn't see or her any car - and also, don't forget, she was on crutches.

So, unlikley.

More likely is that she was staying at a house on my street, and had just nipped out, possibly for a cigarette, to call a cat maybe, or just for fresh air- but all unlikely given the state of dress and the bad weather (and why be in the road?

She could have spent the evening in the nearby town (which does have pubs) and been on a long walk home, and simply got lost or wandered down our street trying to find a shortcut. But for this to be the case, she would have had to enter someones property (front garden) for me not to see her when I drove back. But why would someone on crutches, who lives a significant distance away, not get a taxi or lift home? To this extent I have called local police with full details, just a regular number, not 999 , to let them know of a possible person in need of help- so I can't really do much more.

The only other possibility is that some couple driving past late at night got in a row, and she demanded to be let out of the car (or similar)



The odd thing was, she didn't react to me as I drove past. Most locals would wave (just good manners in a town where most people know each other) , or if not it would be natural to signal a car driving past if a person needed some help.


Or did I see a phantom....

Edited by David, 16 August 2008 - 12:58 PM.

[karlfoxman]

Sounds quite scary! As a paranormal addict it sounds right up my street. Go make an EVP meter and take your Sony Nightcam to the spot tonight!

Ghost Watch was a spoof TV prog wasnt it? Really cheesy and involved a household claiming their house was haunted, It scared the crap out of me when I see it aired!

Let us know how you get on! SCARY STUFF...........

[David]

Ghost Watch was a spoof TV prog wasnt it? Really cheesy and involved a household claiming their house was haunted, It scared the crap out of me when I see it aired!

It seems a bit cheesy looking back, but at the time it was really good. It was done as a live broadcast on Halloween, with Michael Parkinson and Mike Smith in the Studio and Craig Charles and Sarah Greene on location , in a haunted council house. As the evenin g progressed the hauntings in the house got worse, affecting the teenage girls in the house, building up to a (quite deliberate) over the top ending. The whole thing was a pre-recorded drama (they claim they never intened it to be a hoax) but it really scared lots of people. Even when you twigged that it wasn't actually real or live it was still very scarey.

[portfire]

Sounds quite scary! As a paranormal addict it sounds right up my street. Go make an EVP meter and take your Sony Nightcam to the spot tonight!

Ghost Watch was a spoof TV prog wasnt it? Really cheesy and involved a household claiming their house was haunted, It scared the crap out of me when I see it aired!

Let us know how you get on! SCARY STUFF...........

I'm into the paranormal too, (to a degree) I've seen some pretty scary stuff on friends mobile phones, not handed around via Bluetooth, but first hand footage. I'll see if I can get hold of this one thing I saw

I saw this one my brothers phone long before it was on youtube, scared the crap out of me!
http://ca.youtube.co...h?v=73LXEemrxNY You may have to watch it a couple of times.

It's a tunnel under stockbridge bypass, which is well know for ghost sightings and paranormal activity.


I remember Ghost Watch, scared to living daylights out of me. My dad started recording it, I quickly jumped up (shaking) and pressed stop, saying somthing like 'I'm not having that in this house' . Even though it turned out to be a spoof at the end (I think the wind in the studio gave it away) I still couldn't sleep that night.

Yeah, thats one unnerving encounter David, maybe you could do some research for paranormal activities going on in your area.


http://ca.youtube.co...h?v=CSV8vvPW9KI Hoax?

Edited by portfire, 14 August 2008 - 01:16 PM.

[d3v]

I'm interested in the paranormal, too.

I've seen an ET in my room once, and have had 2 bouts of sleep paralysis with things touching and sitting on me. My sister has been spun around the room by something grabbing her leg, and has seen weird looking children with big adult like faces and an old lady in the garden while being fully awake.

No drugs, no alcohol.


I found this video a while back but I'm yet to decide if they are hoaxes or not. They are all very very convincing though. http://www.youtube.com/my_favorites#

[David]

Yeah, thats one unnerving encounter David, maybe you could do some research for paranormal activities going on in your area.

It gets more mysterious too. I asked arounf my neighbours today, no-one knew the person I was talking about, nor did anyone have any guests that left to walk home in the early hours of the morning. What makes it odder too is the fact that she clearly wasn't dressed for the weather, and that given she was on crutches she was walking around alone- Surely if she had been socialising, or a guest, her hosts would have made sure she got a lift home? This suggests to me she had been passing through, and had got out of the car in an argument, then been picked up again. But our street is a cul-de-sac.... Alternativly, someone who had left a party nearby, intending to walk to meet someone or something similar, and had ended up getting lost. But again, why wander off?

To be clear, I don't think I saw a ghost, it is just a very un-nerving situation.

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As for paranormal activities in out area, well, we are near the notorious Chingle Hall, one of Britain's most haunted houses... But not that near.

Finally, there are some good You Tube videos- but too many are ruined by that dumb joke where they get you to stare at the screen or pay close attention, and then suddenly a monster or ghost "jmups out" with a loud scream.

[David]

I saw this one my brothers phone long before it was on youtube, scared the crap out of me!
http://ca.youtube.co...h?v=73LXEemrxNY You may have to watch it a couple of times.

I can't see anything? Maybe it needs to be viewed on a smaller screen than the You Tube standard size?

Edited by David, 14 August 2008 - 06:42 PM.

[portfire]

I can't see anything? Maybe it needs to be viewed on a smaller screen than the You Tube standard size?

You have to look carefully, as one of the girls is panning round, you can see a ghostly head move just behind her.

At 0:35 you can just see two white shapes on the left and right hand of the screen. 0:40 and 0:51, you can see faces. As I said you may need to look a few times.

I never used to believe in ghosts, I was always a 'Acoms razor' person....until I got interested in Quantum Mechanics and String theory. I don't want to go down the "rabbit hole", but it really makes you think.

[David]

At 0:35 you can just see two white shapes on the left and right hand of the screen. 0:40 and 0:51,

Yeah- I see what you mean now! If you pause it at 0:50 , when she sticks her tounge out, you can make out two cloudy "faces" to either side of her. Then the other girl says let's run....
Whats the story- Did the girls see the face and react to them at the time, or only notice them afterwards? It looks like they were just running to catch up a friend, and generally for the fun of it. Curious, anyway!

I never used to believe in ghosts, I was always a 'Acoms razor' person....until I got interested in Quantum Mechanics and String theory. I don't want to go down the "rabbit hole", but it really makes you think.

I think one of the more scientific arguments for "ghosts" is that they are natural recordings- very occassionally a place can record an image (such as a person walking down a path) and "reply" that image many years later, in much they way things are recorded on tape. This would explain why most ghosts don't react to the viewer (they are no more cpable of doing so than a video is of reacting to the person watching it). It also explains why people "float" or walk through walls- they are wlaking up stair cases, or through doors, that are no longer there. What it fails to explain is why just the person is recorded, and not their surroundings IE why do you see a person going through an old door, but not the door itself?

Edited by David, 14 August 2008 - 07:26 PM.

[pyroduck7]

when you pulled out of your dive to turn arround, did a car go past behind you without you seeing, and did you carry on going for a couple of hundred yards to see if she was in that dierection - spookey!

[David]

when you pulled out of your dive to turn arround, did a car go past behind you without you seeing, and did you carry on going for a couple of hundred yards to see if she was in that dierection - spookey!

My street is kind of a big " T " shape, a double cul-de-sac, with my house being at left hand end of the top part of the "T" , if you see what I mean. So for about a minute she was out of sight, which is when a car could have picked her up, turned round and driven off and rejoined the main road. But to do that it would have had to be remarkably quick, and been completly out of site by the time I had driven back- unlikley, given the person was on crutches. But possible.

[portfire]

It looks like they were just running to catch up a friend, and generally for the fun of it. Curious, anyway!

Thats it. Been drinking, having a laugh, and it wasn't until they played the vid back they saw what was there.

IIRC Einstein stated that data is never lost. It's all, energy is mass, and mass is energy (we all know the equation) but as we go down the "rabbit hole", we find ( in theory) we are all made of vibrating strings of pure energy. The way these "strings" vibrate dictate the way the partical behaves, which then dictates the way the atom will behave and so on.

What gets me, is that Einstein also stated that if you were "sucked" into a blackhole, you would never know! You would exist as data around the 'event horizon', and would not know you were in a blackhole, and so we would still be sitting here typing (crap in my case). If I've miss-stated anything, I apologize.

[d3v]

Thats it. Been drinking, having a laugh, and it wasn't until they played the vid back they saw what was there.

IIRC Einstein stated that data is never lost. It's all, energy is mass, and mass is energy (we all know the equation) but as we go down the "rabbit hole", we find ( in theory) we are all made of vibrating strings of pure energy. The way these "strings" vibrate dictate the way the partical behaves, which then dictates the way the atom will behave and so on.

What gets me, is that Einstein also stated that if you were "sucked" into a blackhole, you would never know! You would exist as data around the 'event horizon', and would not know you were in a blackhole, and so we would still be sitting here typing (crap in my case). If I've miss-stated anything, I apologize.

wow interesting stuff. I too have studied string theory and the "energy matrix" we live in and find it much more convincing than the "atoms is all there is" view.

It seems us pyro maniacs are an inquisitive type in more areas than one.

[portfire]

I think one of the more scientific arguments for "ghosts" is that they are natural recordings-

As Einstein stated that data is never lost, you could say that as we move through time, we are leaving "time lines" in 'spacetime'. There is a theory that these "time lines" can cross or overlap, so your not actually seeing a ghost but (as you say) natural recordings of a past time in space.

With regards to string theory, they are 2 types, open and closed looped. It's said that these open strings are able to momentarally "bridge" two dimensions together, so you maybe seeing a person, objects etc from a different dimension.

Now, the other week I had two jehovah's witnesses knock at the door, (just to be clear, I respect other peoples believes, and I'm in no way wanting to upset anyone. I personally don't believe in god) and I can say I had one very lengthy enjoyable discussion, and I think I opened their eye's in some way. (I don't think they were expecting someone who as a interest in Quantum Mechanics and string theory to open the door) I mean, they said that man still doesn't know where light comes from, I told them exactly where it comes from. The thing that gets me, is that they said they would come back with this book (not the bible) and talk somemore. This was over two weeks ago now, and they never returned....Did I change there views, like they were trying to change mine, who knows.

[Mortartube]

If you study the works of Tom Lethbridge, he was one of the first to suggest ghosts are "recordings". He suggested a link between nearby bodies of water and sightings and said that maybe water has the ability to capture an image and replay it under the right conditions.

He was also a master dowser who found that various material reacted to specific lengths of the string on a pendulum.

Edited by Mortartube, 15 August 2008 - 12:18 PM.