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[sjc]

JTF stoke today had sold over £15,000 worth of Men Shun fireworks by lunchtime according to the sales assistant. It was very busy with queues forming for £99.99 firework packs and £20 rocket packs (RRP £49).

Great buys include:

Moonlight Eruption £39.99 (£99.99)
New Year Celebrations: £39.99 (£109.99)
Pulverizer £8.99 (£28.99)
Hawker Rockets £9.99 (£34.99)

Prices +VAT @ JTF

New stock arriving Friday

[Prestonboi]

Sounds like they are selling well! All the Pyro that goes up around Bonfire night the better!

[David]

JTF stoke today had sold over £15,000 worth of Men Shun fireworks by lunchtime according to the sales assistant. It was very busy with queues forming for £99.99 firework packs and £20 rocket packs (RRP £49).

Great buys include:

Moonlight Eruption £39.99 (£99.99)
New Year Celebrations: £39.99 (£109.99)
Pulverizer £8.99 (£28.99)
Hawker Rockets £9.99 (£34.99)

Prices +VAT @ JTF

New stock arriving Friday

So prices are- Moonlight Eruption £47, "£99.99" packs are £117.50 etc...

I think, just in the interest of "fair play", it is better to quote the price the customer pays.

[Firestarter]

I've had a look at JTF Stoke for a few weeks, resisting the "urge" to buy , and have'nt seen any of those on sale.

When did they take delivery of those?

[David]

I've had a look at JTF Stoke for a few weeks, resisting the "urge" to buy , and have'nt seen any of those on sale.

When did they take delivery of those?

JTF give them different names, under the brand name "Guy Fawkes" - so eg Men Shuns "Moonlight Eruption" becomes "Night Rider" etc.

[sjc]

I've had a look at JTF Stoke for a few weeks, resisting the "urge" to buy , and have'nt seen any of those on sale.

When did they take delivery of those?

Sorry, they are rebranded "Guy Fawkes" - if I get time I will put a list up of what is what at JTF!

[Firestarter]

David,

Like i said, i've been curiously looking at them everytime i've visited the warehouse for weeks.  I've got my stash from elsewhere but I just cant work them out for love nor money.

Yes they're Men Shun, yes i looked at the Lunar Lights cake - bought it to look at, set it off and thought it was more than decent for the money.

So why are they selling them cheaper than Men Shun?  less powder?  special deal?

what is the crack with their selection boxes and barrage packs?  surely they must be the same?

Edited by Firestarter, 30 October 2008 - 10:27 PM.

[sjc]

David,

Like i said, i've been curiously looking at them everytime i've visited the warehouse for weeks. I've got my stash from elsewhere but I just cant work them out for love nor money.

Yes they're Men Shun, yes i looked at the Lunar Lights cake - bought it to look at, set it off and thought it was more than decent for the money.

So why are they selling them cheaper than Men Shun? less powder? special deal?

what is the crack with their selection boxes and barrage packs? surely they must be the same?

JTF buy well over £1m worth of Fireworks from Menshun - hence the rather large discount. The "Guy Fawkes" range has also been sold at Makro

[sjc]

£56.99 RRP


JTF £19.99 (Midnight Mayhem)
http://www.jtf-whole....uk/fireworks4/

[David]

David,

Like i said, i've been curiously looking at them everytime i've visited the warehouse for weeks.  I've got my stash from elsewhere but I just cant work them out for love nor money.

Yes they're Men Shun, yes i looked at the Lunar Lights cake - bought it to look at, set it off and thought it was more than decent for the money.

So why are they selling them cheaper than Men Shun?  less powder?  special deal?

what is the crack with their selection boxes and barrage packs?  surely they must be the same?

Well, they are a wholesaler/trade only- so these are wholesale/trade prices. With VAT, they work out to be around 55% (roughly) less than Men Shuns RRP.

To be honest, a lot of retail shops sell Men Shun at a significant discount from RRP too.

The key, I think, is that the RRPs are rather high when compared to other brands. EG a firework of similar performance might be RRP £15 with Men Shun/Guy Fawkes and only £10 with another brand.

[Firestarter]

sjc,

which guy fawkes equivalent is the pulverizer?

[David]

£56.99 RRP


JTF £19.99 (Midnight Mayhem)
http://www.jtf-whole....uk/fireworks4/

JTF price £23.50 . Not £19.99. If you are buying to use privatly, and not claiming back VAT, £19.99 doesn't exist- its phoney. Remember Men Shun's RRPs include VAT. The price you pay is £23.50. Still, thats about 59% less then the the Men Shun version.

Edited by David, 30 October 2008 - 10:43 PM.

[Firestarter]

Is it EXACTLY the same firework as the men shun equivalent though?

[David]

Is it EXACTLY the same firework as the men shun equivalent though?

Probably, but maybe not. It is unlikely they would build a different firework with the same shot count, shape etc. But the Guy Fawkes version might be new spec, retailer might be selling the Men Shun version that is old spec (or vice versa), so there is that angle, too.

[cabbage]

the big red one you are talking about would be up there with all the overdressed rogue fireworks. Basically its just a few of menshuns candles fused together with lots and lots of empty space. Compared to say 888 by brothers it is twice the size but only offers a similar performance. tbh i think 888 is better. Which if you shop around you can pick up at £16.50 (no hidden vat to add either).

To be fair JTF do sell a few good menshun items at a fantastic discount but they do tend to sell most of the poorer quality menshun products.

But as i say they do have a few quality items its a matter of picking them out. I dont have a list in front of me but from memory battlecruiser and independence day used to be cheap from JTF which are good.