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#16 starseeker

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Posted 09 December 2008 - 08:58 PM

Here is my list of chems i plan to buy and the amounts and prices.

potassium Perchlorate. Per 500 grams £10.00 150 mesh
Strontium Carbonate per 500 grams = £4.50 250 mesh
Copper oxide (black) per 250 grams = £ 7.00 400 mesh
Barium Nitrate per 150 grams = £4.50 60 mesh
Red Iron oxide per kilo = £4.75 300 mesh
Titanium flake ( fine ) per 100 grams =£5.50 approx 20 mesh
Bentonite powdered Clay per kilo = £ 3.75 350- mesh
Visco fuse 1.8 mm= £11 10 meter
Parlon per 500 grams =£10.00 100 mesh
Red Gum per 500 grams =£ 11.00 200 mesh
With postage and packing it will come to around £80

On top of this i plan to make a ball mill using a scrounged motor from a washing machine or a fan from a scrapyard or skip. And safety stuff like goggles, dustmask and gloves. Also dowels and paper to roll tubes.


It seems that you have forgoten the three most important chems,pottasium nitrate,charcoal,sulphur.

Without these you will have no b.p.

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Posted 10 December 2008 - 02:42 PM

In my first post i stated that i already have these components, i can imagine it would be quite interesting trying to make fireworks without black powder.

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Posted 10 December 2008 - 08:59 PM

In my first post i stated that i already have these components, i can imagine it would be quite interesting trying to make fireworks without black powder.


I have just read your first post,i now feel a bit daft! :blush:

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Posted 10 December 2008 - 10:49 PM

Hehe i do stuff like that all the time

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Posted 19 December 2008 - 07:04 PM

I agree, safety kit should be at the top of the list especially when you start using some of the more toxic chemicals used in pyro. I buy Nitrile rubber gloves by the 1000, it is much cheaper and it does not take long to get through a box of 100 when doing allot of experimentation.

Buy the best mask you can afford. I use the one below and it has the advantage of protecting your eyes from a flare up god forbid. It does not steam up either which is a massive advantage over using a cheap mask.

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As others have said read, read and read then get a list of chemicals together that will get you going on the basics. As for tools again as others have said it depends on what you want to do. But if you are quite handy and resourceful most can be made cheaply especially for hobby scale equipment.

If you are not already a member pay the $20 and become a member of passfire and read all of the articles. It will certainly give you lots of practical advice and the formula database is pretty good too.

I found a full face gas mask,is the same or i must buy dust mask?

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Posted 19 December 2008 - 07:35 PM

I found a full face gas mask,is the same or i must buy dust mask?


The mask I use has different cartridges that can be attached to it for either dust, gas or vapours etc. These cartridges can be clipped on top of each other for combined hazards.

So to you question find the specifications of cartridge as this will tell you what it protects you from. However I would imagine that a gas filter will protect you from dust too, the only problem is that it may clog up quickly but you will only find out how long the cartridges will last after you have used it for a while.

What make of mask is it that you have? Do you have a link to it on the Internet or some pictures?
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#22 Pyrogeorge

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Posted 19 December 2008 - 08:49 PM

http://cgi.ebay.com/...-Ga...:1|294:50

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Posted 19 December 2008 - 09:39 PM

http://cgi.ebay.com/...-Ga...:1|294:50


Good find it looks like a good mask for the money. From the details it should be fine. If you have trouble getting replacement filters it looks like it will accept the Sundstrom adapter for their cartridges.

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Posted 28 January 2009 - 09:05 PM

Here is my list of chems i plan to buy and the amounts and prices.

potassium Perchlorate. Per 500 grams £10.00 150 mesh
Strontium Carbonate per 500 grams = £4.50 250 mesh
Copper oxide (black) per 250 grams = £ 7.00 400 mesh
Barium Nitrate per 150 grams = £4.50 60 mesh
Red Iron oxide per kilo = £4.75 300 mesh
Titanium flake ( fine ) per 100 grams =£5.50 approx 20 mesh
Bentonite powdered Clay per kilo = £ 3.75 350- mesh
Visco fuse 1.8 mm= £11 10 meter
Parlon per 500 grams =£10.00 100 mesh
Red Gum per 500 grams =£ 11.00 200 mesh
With postage and packing it will come to around £80

On top of this i plan to make a ball mill using a scrounged motor from a washing machine or a fan from a scrapyard or skip. And safety stuff like goggles, dustmask and gloves. Also dowels and paper to roll tubes.



where would one get KClO4 from britain without raising any suspicion
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