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#1 defective

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Posted 28 March 2009 - 12:23 AM

hi there, is it possible to obtain ammonium perchlorate from mixing ammonium nitrate with potassium perchlorate.

i know that the k perchlorate is low in solubility but unsure about ammonium perchlorates solubility properties.

in theory it should work ( i think, if chemistry has tought me anything)

i believe the chemical equation for the reaction would look like this;

KClO4 + NH4NO3 -----> KNO3 + NH4ClO4

as both potassium and ammonium ions carry a charge of 1+ and that potassium nitrate is very soluble.

any help would be much appreciated, thanks.
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Posted 28 March 2009 - 07:36 AM

Well, the reaction would work and it's correctly ballanced. Your chemisty classes are well paying off :)

Your problem would be to separate the AP from the resulted potassium nitrate, as they have similar solubilities.

Read more stuff here: http://www.geocities...e/chlorate.html

Also, wiki it's faily good at solubilities of different chems for a quick check up.

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Posted 28 March 2009 - 04:03 PM

Well, the reaction would work and it's correctly ballanced. Your chemisty classes are well paying off :)

Your problem would be to separate the AP from the resulted potassium nitrate, as they have similar solubilities.

Read more stuff here: http://www.geocities...e/chlorate.html

Also, wiki it's faily good at solubilities of different chems for a quick check up.



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Posted 28 March 2009 - 07:50 PM

You might get scuppered by the minimum solubility law - reactions tend to go in the direction that forms the least soluble species, which in this case is definitely pot. perc.
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Posted 29 March 2009 - 05:38 PM

As pyrotrev said, because potassium perchlorate is so insoluble, the perchlorate added by the ammonium perchlorate will force potassium perchlorate out of the solution, not vice versa :(.
It's also called the common ion effect if you want to look it up.

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Posted 29 March 2009 - 09:06 PM

As pyrotrev said, because potassium perchlorate is so insoluble, the perchlorate added by the ammonium perchlorate will force potassium perchlorate out of the solution, not vice versa :(.
It's also called the common ion effect if you want to look it up.



ahh of course it will, i see know. thanks any way guys.
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