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[David]

Firstly, the name is unfortunate- the very term "pocket money" implies people under 18, who of course are not legally allowed to buy fireworks or possess them in a public pace.

So, to put a line through it pocket money fireworks.

Lets call them entry level fireworks.

Stuff like single comet candles, small rockets (formly airb0mbs and mini/bottle rockets) and crackle crackers (formerly jumpin jacks)

So - what of them? Do they have a role, or should they be swept away for good?

Those in favour will argue that they are cheap, and a bit of fun, something to set off in the back garden.

Those against will argue that they have little use in a display, even in the garden, and generaly cause more bother than pleasure, so should be removed. Of course, some of these lines HAVE been removed!


Me , I like them- when friends are round for the evening, it can be fun to let off a bit of pyro- and I've never had anyone complain.

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On a more historical note, its interested that looking through Bright Star's 1997 catalogue, about half of their (fairly large) range was fireworks of this type.

Edited by David, 13 April 2009 - 11:15 PM.

[bwdoz]

I must say I've always enjoyed them and wouldn't like to see them disappear. Provided they can be kept out of the hands of kids I'm sure there's a place for them.

[David]

Just wondering- in countries where small fireworks such as these are sold all year round, are they considered a nuicence? Holland, France, South Carolina (and other states) sell little bangers all year round- are they fround upon?

[starseeker]

[quote name='David' date='Apr 14 2009, 12:14 AM' post='55358']
Firstly, the name is unfortunate- the very term "pocket money" implies people under 18, who of course are not legally allowed to buy fireworks or possess them in a public pace.

So, to put a line through it pocket money fireworks.

Lets call them entry level fireworks.

Stuff like single comet candles, small rockets (formly airb0mbs and mini/bottle rockets) and crackle crackers (formerly jumpin jacks)

So - what of them? Do they have a role, or should they be swept away for good?

Those in favour will argue that they are cheap, and a bit of fun, something to set off in the back garden.

Those against will argue that they have little use in a display, even in the garden, and generaly cause more bother than pleasure, so should be removed. Of course, some of these lines HAVE been removed!

I would like to see all these fireworks for sale, (Little Hope ).These were great fun and little danger to anybody,also while we are at it how about small shells up to 60mm available ? Maybe in a cake rather than with a morter etc.

[cpfireworks]

Firstly, the name is unfortunate- the very term "pocket money" implies people under 18, who of course are not legally allowed to buy fireworks or possess them in a public pace.

So, to put a line through it pocket money fireworks.

Lets call them entry level fireworks.

Stuff like single comet candles, small rockets (formly airb0mbs and mini/bottle rockets) and crackle crackers (formerly jumpin jacks)

So - what of them? Do they have a role, or should they be swept away for good?

Those in favour will argue that they are cheap, and a bit of fun, something to set off in the back garden.

Those against will argue that they have little use in a display, even in the garden, and generaly cause more bother than pleasure, so should be removed. Of course, some of these lines HAVE been removed!

I would like to see all these fireworks for sale, (Little Hope ).These were great fun and little danger to anybody,also while we are at it how about small shells up to 60mm available ? Maybe in a cake rather than with a morter etc.

mmmm hows about a 4 second gerb that gets to upto 2 meters for 50p (retail)? brothers mini mania fountains £4 for 8 these can be used in displays with a bit of imagination

[pyrotechnist]

As far as I am concerned road works, hammering, dogs barking 24/7, chavs shouting and smashing stuff up, pubs and cars with loud exhausts. Make much much worse noise and cause more hassle than any firework ever could achieve. So why take these sort of fireworks from the shelves? its stupid and selfish to the people who actually enjoy them. I don't want to sound awful but I am sick of these do-gooders moaning about firework noise when people like us have to put up with their dogs barking all the bloody time. If they want to ban any sort of firework then they may as well ban hammers, cars, bikes, stop road works, ban dogs and most of all go and dig a massive ditch and bury all these pissing chavs in it! then the economy will be fair.

If these idiots have their own way we will either have no fireworks left or have a cheap shitty garden box with 1 foot charcoal fountains. This country seriously pisses me off with its policies and stupid rules, I really don't know how anyone can put up with it. Ok that's my rant over for today .

[Arthur Brown]

This is what the Yanks call "Safe and Sane" usually small ground based effects and sparklers.

So safe- pyro exists at 1000 - 2000 degrees C hardly safe!
Fireworks do not have a brain (yet!) so where is the sanity!
Sparklers are the No 1 cause of firework injury esp as they really are given to children and the wire remains too hot to hold for minutes after the comp has gone.

It is hard for consumers to appreciate the need for due care when the firework costs pence.

[David]

mmmm hows about a 4 second gerb that gets to upto 2 meters for 50p (retail)? brothers mini mania fountains £4 for 8 these can be used in displays with a bit of imagination

Yeah , there is quite a decent range of little fountains at the moment, and hopefully more to come.

My only (minor) gripe is the over use of crackles some ranges. I have nothing against a crackle effect, of course, just that after a while it is somewhat repetative if over used.

Marvel had some, a 5 pack of squat little fountains, that belt out a dense effect for about 8 seconds- all of which were crackles! Good fun, but variety is good too.

[Mortartube]

all of which were crackles! Good fun, but variety is good too.

I heartily agree. Too many crackles in Chinese goods. And too many microstars. Just a plain Al silver or Iron gold sometimes is enough. Put the other effects in a selection box too, but not everything virtually the same. YAWN!

[David]

Put the other effects in a selection box too, but not everything virtually the same. YAWN!

Yeah, what many selection boxes have lost now is the genuine "selection." The old British ones would have a variey of fireworks, each of which had a noticably different effect- and a relevant label/name that described the effect.

Edited by David, 19 April 2009 - 12:46 PM.

[dogsbody]

cant agree more, last 'selection box' i had was basically candles and fountains, nothing exciting!

[Arthur Brown]

Hang on! We may not find simple fireworks exciting because we are accustomed to hand firing bigger stuff! The thump as a 6" leaves the mortar rather over shadows a 50p fountain.

[David]

Hang on! We may not find simple fireworks exciting because we are accustomed to hand firing bigger stuff! The thump as a 6" leaves the mortar rather over shadows a 50p fountain.

I have nothing against a nice bit of back garden stuff!

[dogsbody]

nor me