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#1 David

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Posted 15 May 2009 - 02:05 PM

Topic for discussion!

SIB, for those who don't know, is the "Single Ignition Box"- typically a large firework, that works through a variety of effects, usually ending with a notable climax. The logic being that rather than using several little fireworks, you can just set off one big one.

So yeah- how it looking?

Some SIBs can be very good indeed- If some care has gone into the production of them, and the artistry of effects, then the effects can compliment each other well, chaning the pace, angle and even bore size. However, some can just be a lazy series of average peonies with a bit of crackle, belted up in about a minute.

The typical "bang" ending is now often replaced with co-ordinated crackle bursts- which can look good, but run the risk of being over used.

However, the biggest issue nowadays might be the price. At upwards of £50, for a firework lasting a minute, this might not be something people can afford/be prepared to buy. "Pound for Pound" more can probably be done with a series of cheaper fireworks, with effects being more or less the same. IE just because its a bigger firework does not mean the effects are better!

Edited by David, 15 May 2009 - 02:06 PM.

OK, interest in fireworks to be resumed in the spring. It usually is. ;)

#2 Arthur Brown

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Posted 15 May 2009 - 05:55 PM

My local party shop is my local year round fireworks store. The usual assistant is a woman who likes but does not specialise in fireworks (it's her husband's prime interest) She says fireworks sell directly in proportion to the number of shots and the verbal aggression of the name. WE may care what is in the show but the average customer really doesn't care.
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#3 dogsbody

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Posted 15 May 2009 - 10:53 PM

i use several in each of the displays i do and they work well for me,sohope they dont go!!

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Posted 29 May 2009 - 02:54 PM

Here is one of the new ones for 2009-

Midnight, From Brothers

Quality effects, but a pricetag that has "ouch" written all over it! B)

Certainly does the job of a top quailty "SIB" though.
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#5 BrightStar

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Posted 29 May 2009 - 03:22 PM

Quality effects, but a pricetag that has "ouch" written all over it! B)


Without specific reference to the the above, yup you do get quality effects in the SIBs, but they're gone in just a few seconds. By the time the audience comes to appreciate the effect the cake is on to the next.

SIBs seem to fudge two distinct requirements - providing a steady yet interesting display and the 'shock and awe' of a finale barrage. It seems that they do neither particulary well.

I'd like to see more big 'finale cakes' available in Cat3... but that's probably the subject of another thread...

Edited by BrightStar, 29 May 2009 - 03:29 PM.


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Posted 29 May 2009 - 03:30 PM

I'd like to see more proper 'finale cakes' available in Cat3... but that's probably the subject of another thread...


It would be a good thread!

Tiger's revenge would certainly cut it, and I have used Epic's Awaken, and Brother's Airboss to good effect.

For a finale, too, length isn't a big issue- 20-30 seconds is enough for the "shock and awe."
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#7 Firework Crazy

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Posted 30 May 2009 - 12:19 PM

Problem is, very few people will spend good money on a piece that last 20 seconds.

Items like spread sold really well for us last year as finale items.
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Posted 30 May 2009 - 03:53 PM

Problem is, very few people will spend good money on a piece that last 20 seconds.


Yeah- I agree that certain items can be TOO quick. "Blue Blitz" for example.
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#9 Manchester Fireworks

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Posted 09 June 2009 - 03:05 PM

We tend to find that customers often prefer a large single ignition to a selection of small fireworks for a party but the burn time of the firework is a major consideration with most people wanting it to last for as long as possible without being boring and ones that last only for 20secs or so are no use to normal consumers unless they are planning a large display.




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