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[sizzle]

How much should I use, the same amount as I would Parlon?

[Yugen-biki]

Same, to begin with. If you like to experiment, there might be a better ratio to be found.

[fishy1]

can i substitute perc into this formula:

ammonium perchlorate 82
copper benzoate 18
dextrin 4



it's not my own formula, but i can't remember who's it is.



i know it won't be as good as using AP, but will it be ok, and has anyone tried it?
thanks.

[Yugen-biki]

It is from AFN II page 92 "New Blue"

I don't think KClO4 with work very good. NH4ClO4 is a better chlorine donor.

I don't think anyone has tried this, so you have to make a small test batch to se for your self.

[paul]

In addition NH4ClO4 is used because it produces only gaseous products. KClO4 won?t act this way.

So the completely different "behaviour" will yield completely different results. Worse ones, I think

[completebeginner]

would this make a good red formula?
strontium carbonate+ potassium nitrate and magnesium?

[sizzle]

I would personally use Potassium Perchlorate not Nitrate as you would get better oxidisation hence a better colour, try experimenting a bit and see what ratios give you the best red. Please post your results so that I can use your formula .

[Richard H]

Try strontium nitrate, magnesium, a chlorine donor, and a binder. Or you can dry press them under a few tonnes and omit the binder.

[sizzle]

New Star:

- 70 Potassium Perchlorate
- 10 Red Gum
- 15 Strontium Carbonate
- 1 Charcoal
- 15 Magnesium Shreds

Makes a fantastic red star with white crackles that fly off.

[completebeginner]

I'll try that comp but substitute kclo3 for kclo4 after passfire gets the new article out on coating mg with linseed oil

Edited by completebeginner, 23 December 2005 - 03:02 AM.

[adamw]

I hope you are aware that red gum can contain some sulphur compounds (apparently) so be careful with KClO3 !!

[Mumbles]

Why do you have to wait for Passfire to come out with an article? You take your magnesium, add 4% linseed oil by weight, stir around, and spread into thin layers and allow to polymerise. I have heard some people complaining that they don't think the oil spreads through out the Mg evenly. If you find this to be a problem, thin with acetone.

[completebeginner]

Ok thanks Mummbles Ill try it when my kclo3 comes in

[Mumbles]

I am looking to make some Winokur glitters for new years. Number 34 to be exact. I used one before, #16. I trust that the formula will produce a good result. The purpose of my question is to see if I should ball mill the components(sans the Al) together before hand, or if I could get away with simply mixing the chemicals? I am running out of time, and I would really love to be able to mix them and have the effect work.

[sizzle]

Glitters don't work too well if mixed too much so it is best to simply screen it a couple of times.