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[El Fuego Danza]

Hi, Gang,
Long time no speak!... SORRY, but the P.C's been up the wall!

Nice to re-view all your topics recently and get back up to date!

As for this, my latest topic, I have been asked by a local American Car Enthusiast's Club to help with a "Cops and Robbers" type "SHOOT-OUT" scene which they intend to perform in a reasonably large (200m x 100m) arena.
The over-all idea is to have some of the club members being "Bad Guys", committing a seriouse offence or two, and then being overwhelmed by the local "NYPD" ... SIRENS BLARING AND GUNS A-BLAZING! etc..

The replica guns, I believe, are already sorted as some of the members do the "Cowboy & Western" sceenes as well...

What I am looking for is some kind of single ignition, VERY low level (LIKE 1 INCH) MINE EFFECTS which would replicate the impact of a Bullet striking the ground, or if possible, to be fixed behind false glass (ie. suggar), in order to blow out a window or two in the pre-rigged vehicles so as to make the fireing of the guns more realistic to the spectators. It would also be nice to put a few "bullet holes" in the sides of the cars.

Obviousley, I cannot afford ANY DISCHARGE from the pyros as the "actors" will be within only feet of the charges at the point of firing, and an electronic fireing system is a MUST due to the pin-point timing required to make this stunt work.
Any advice out there would be appreciated as to speciffics of the pyro's required and the suppliers thereof.
egars, Roy.

[Arthur Brown]

If you are in the UK, then Le Maitre microdets are the product of choice. They are intended for close proximity work, electrically fired, and have a tiny flash and bang intended to simulate a bullet hit.

If you are in the UK then check carefully with the local police about the firearms in a public place.

If you are elsewhere in the world look to see if Le Maitre have distribution in your locality.

[El Fuego Danza]

Thanks, Arthur.
Yes, the Microdets seem to be the job.
However, I've looked at the Le Maitre web-site and I'm having diiculty in getting prices and order forms.
Is there any specific licence required to buy/use these? or will my cat4 cover them?
regards, Roy.

[El Fuego Danza]

P.S. I am in the U.K.

[MartinSPFX]

Hi, Gang,
Long time no speak!... SORRY, but the P.C's been up the wall!

Nice to re-view all your topics recently and get back up to date!

As for this, my latest topic, I have been asked by a local American Car Enthusiast's Club to help with a "Cops and Robbers" type "SHOOT-OUT" scene which they intend to perform in a reasonably large (200m x 100m) arena.
The over-all idea is to have some of the club members being "Bad Guys", committing a seriouse offence or two, and then being overwhelmed by the local "NYPD" ... SIRENS BLARING AND GUNS A-BLAZING! etc..

The replica guns, I believe, are already sorted as some of the members do the "Cowboy & Western" sceenes as well...

What I am looking for is some kind of single ignition, VERY low level (LIKE 1 INCH) MINE EFFECTS which would replicate the impact of a Bullet striking the ground, or if possible, to be fixed behind false glass (ie. suggar), in order to blow out a window or two in the pre-rigged vehicles so as to make the fireing of the guns more realistic to the spectators. It would also be nice to put a few "bullet holes" in the sides of the cars.

Obviousley, I cannot afford ANY DISCHARGE from the pyros as the "actors" will be within only feet of the charges at the point of firing, and an electronic fireing system is a MUST due to the pin-point timing required to make this stunt work.
Any advice out there would be appreciated as to speciffics of the pyro's required and the suppliers thereof.
egars, Roy.

Hey Roy, Got a paintball gun? next time use zirc hits which is a zirconium in-bedded within a paintball, Le-maitre sells them, you can also get them in extra hot for a larger spark. Also Dust hits, another paintball. And a Ceramic marble for the glass hit, Position your shooting angle for allowance of deflection of shrapnel away from actors or soft-props(stunts) two or three from various angles looks pretty cool. Just an idea, For the Bullet holes in the sides of cars, I recommend d80-2's from DE Le mar outta LA, not sure of the availability in the UK, but here is what you do. Take a spike hammer and puncture the outer panels of the car. From the reverse of the panel push the metal as flat as you can get it. Bondo your hit directly over the puncture aperture. use a steel flat plate and bondo the hell out of it. Sand and paint the exterior skin to perfection of the original skin look. Wire and fire. I like to a body clunker for optimize timing, repeat the sequence to camera and the shooter. Over the shoulder camera, and it looks totally awesome, but hey its up to the director and DOP...but its a camera lock off, Shoot a plate shot if the actor need to be close, or use a dummy. as a precaution. Look totally wicked...

Edited by MartinSPFX, 13 May 2010 - 03:45 AM.