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[Epic Fireworks]

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As soon as they land, i'll let you know Stu.

[Spyrotechnics]

ha ha ha nice one

[Epic Fireworks]

ha ha ha nice one

I'm sure you have 1.3g storage, if you need any, i'll do you a good price.

Edited by Epic Fireworks, 26 September 2009 - 11:15 AM.

[pyrotechnist]

Instead of coming on a form and going on about our currently extremely shit and poor performance fireworks why don't you and all the others (that including myself) go to try and get the new laws changed and some oldies exempted again. It seems that the government are merely listening to god fearing pet owning do gooders who say there dog or cat is scared, I have two dogs and they love fireworks and one is a 9 week old puppy. I would say that dogs probably bark louder than some fireworks can bang but that's just my opinion, well they sure as hell are much MUCH more annoying so take it as you wish! Lets ban these dickheads who try and get fireworks banned lol.

If the government keep doing what they are doing we will soon see a ban of all publicly available fireworks and don't try and say it wont happen cause it will or we will be left with these shitty Chinese garden fireworks that are 1" long , the thought gives me nightmares alone. If fireworks go worse or they do get banned then I am sure a lot of people will try and start making their own fireworks to get the originally loud bangs back and probably get injured in the process by looking at websites like anarchists cookbook and lots of other shit out there or simply looking at a youtube vid of flash powder and blowing themselves up.

Floyd you may say that fireworks are going back to how they where in the sixties but the only difference is that the fireworks in the sixties where probably more well designed and worked better but within a smaller scale, though I aint saying all of them did, plus you had a lot of garden piece variety from set pieces and different types of wheels, fountains and mines etc compared to now. The only fireworks I see now are:

• Shit cheap crackling cakes, may as well import crackling fuse strips.
• Shit miniature fountains that again sound like coco pops and have the height range of a chair leg.
• Cheap wheels, I actually dont see many wheels at all anymore accept the odd crap few.
• Shit range of mines to no range of mines.
• Big cakes which are merely small cakes in a dress :>
• Not many fanned barrages of different types of effects.
• Dont see much use of crossettes (sp?)
• Not much use of star transitioning effects.
• Not much use of combination's and formula combination's within single devices.
• Mostly ALL of the work seems to go into the packaging and label design and nothing else.
• Oh and before I forget sparklers are shit to!

Ok I have finished my rant lol hope I didn't offend anyone, bye!

[David]

OK, King Hell may or may not be an exact Dolly the Sheep clone of Hercules, but never the less, it does look pretty similar. The good thing is that price- if Epic are doing them for £40, thats great value.

The best thing about the original Hercules , in my opinion, was it's price (in 2007). At an RRP of £60, it was brilliant value for money.

[chimp]

I don't think your contribution will have offended anyone Pyrotechnist, but neither do I think you'll have inspired anyone either. You could have saved yourself a lot of time and just said you weren't happy with today's quality of fireworks.

[Mortartube]

I must agree with Pyrotechnist on many of his points. In particular small garden fountains. It used to be a joy to watch a Standard Snow Storm, Traffic Lights or even a Crackling Cauldron, (with chunky magnalium and NOT dragon eggs mix). It was a different sound.

And let's have some proper hummers. Good ones with a half inch I.D not the 5mm ID ones that sound like a gnat on baked beans.

I think that former British made cat 2 stuff had so much variety and FULL TUBES in most instances. Cat 2 CAN be interesting. It just isn't these days.

[pyrotechnist]

Ok then dont complain when your not in business anymore due to our shit economics, regulations and people staying well away from crap cause that's all our current fireworks are is uninspiring total wast of time shit with no creativeness or thought put into them just snap crackle and pop. Why should anyone pay more for less? if you are that worried about making money selling fireworks to put high prices on them and import inferior products that only a minority like then go into a new business adventure as fireworks just are not it unlike the many years gone by. I dont want to pay 40 or 50 quid for a cake that cost hardly anything to make with the Chinese workers getting 20p per hour to make them, 20p per hour is more or less the norm wage in China. That means you can pay 200 Chinese workers with a 40 quid cake per hour. Then lets add the low material costs the manufactured product isn't going to cost much though I aint saying classification and importation etc doesn't cause it does but it doesn't mean we need large price tags on a firework. If you are willing to pay to import fireworks and get them classified then why dont you go the extra mile and add some creativity to them? not just the bloody label.

Chimp no offense but 3 minutes is not a lot of time writing my thoughts on a current subject that is starting to become a pretty hot one so no I have not wasted anytime though you have in giving me no real feedback. Thats my opinion anyway so take it or leave it.

Thank you Motartube , if only we could have some of those brought back.

Edited by pyrotechnist, 26 September 2009 - 05:44 PM.

[cpfireworks]

Thank you for your feedback

Youre welcome so are they landing in time or not?

[Spyrotechnics]

now, where did I put those rose tinted glasses....

[cpfireworks]

OK, King Hell may or may not be an exact Dolly the Sheep clone of Hercules, but never the less, it does look pretty similar. The good thing is that price- if Epic are doing them for £40, thats great value.

The best thing about the original Hercules , in my opinion, was it's price (in 2007). At an RRP of £60, it was brilliant value for money.

like putting a ferrari body kit on an mr2 http://www.mr2bodyki...ures/large5.jpg looks similar doesnt it lol

[David]

Well, I have a Hercules, and I'll be getting a King Hell. I'll fire the two and ask people what they think.

[David]

Ok then dont complain when your not all our current fireworks are is uninspiring total wast of time shit with no creativeness or thought put into them just snap crackle and pop.

There are some wonderful "current" fireworks available, both at 1.3G and 1.4G.

There are ALSO some very poor "snap , crackle and pop" fireworks.

Just shop around, watch videos, ask for advice and choose the right ones.

[pmhcfc]

Ok then dont complain when your not in business anymore due to our shit economics, regulations and people staying well away from crap cause that's all our current fireworks are is uninspiring total wast of time shit with no creativeness or thought put into them just snap crackle and pop. Why should anyone pay more for less? if you are that worried about making money selling fireworks to put high prices on them and import inferior products that only a minority like then go into a new business adventure as fireworks just are not it unlike the many years gone by. I dont want to pay 40 or 50 quid for a cake that cost hardly anything to make with the Chinese workers getting 20p per hour to make them, 20p per hour is more or less the norm wage in China. That means you can pay 200 Chinese workers with a 40 quid cake per hour. Then lets add the low material costs the manufactured product isn't going to cost much though I aint saying classification and importation etc doesn't cause it does but it doesn't mean we need large price tags on a firework. If you are willing to pay to import fireworks and get them classified then why dont you go the extra mile and add some creativity to them? not just the bloody label.

Thank you Motartube , if only we could have some of those brought back.

Whilst you're entitled to your opinion - some of which I agree with - you have to understand that fireworks are just like anything else...To me, Mars Bars are smaller than
they were when I was a kid, yet cost a lot more money.

I'm not sure how old you are, but the fireworks I used to watch when I was a kid in the late 70's were piss poor by today's standards. I think we all got a bit spolit in
the 90's when we could go into a newsagent in early November and purchase shells (with launch tubes) and a whole host of other stuff. But you have to be honest, it just isn't
safe to for those (or similar items) to be sold into any old corner shop to anyone who is 18 - not in this day and age. And with that in mind, the laws had to change.

I seem to remember people telling me the only time they got turkey was at Xmas, and that made it special...exciting almost. But that's available all year now so having it
on Xmas day doesn't really mean anything. It's a bit like fireworks being available all year - if it was still only in November when we bought, saw and heard them then GFN
would still hold it's fully 'mystical' value...Don't get me wrong I'm not knocking things, I absolutely love GFN and the days leading up to it. It's six weeks still my
garden party and I can't wait , neither can my kids.

But all in all, and as previously mentioned, you have to shop around. I got a fantastic deal from a well known stockist up on the borders of Yorkshire. If fireworks like
Screaming Spiders, Open Fire, Fire One and a whole multitudes of others don't get you excited - then I doubt anything will. And don't think I'm such rich tw*t who has a
bundle of cash to throw around. I have to save (hard) all year to be able to have my fireworks but I'm addicted to them so therin lies the problem (sic). If you have a
passion then you'll do whatever it is, spend whatever you have to, to live that passion. And if that passion is strong enough to drive you to get what you want, then
you'll get things like King Rockets for this year--- just like I have ;-)

Have fun and enjoy GFN for God's sake - I know I'm going to!!!

[David]

I seem to remember people telling me the only time they got turkey was at Xmas, and that made it special...exciting almost. But that's available all year now so having it
on Xmas day doesn't really mean anything. It's a bit like fireworks being available all year - if it was still only in November when we bought, saw and heard them then GFN
would still hold it's fully 'mystical' value

This is certainly true. As a more general point, life has become more "luxurious" or perhaps simply less frugal, in recent times. When we were growing up fizzy drink was a treat, for example, the staple drink being cordial that was made with water from the tap! It was common to wait to make a telephone call until after 6pm, because it was cheaper then.


Growing up, fireworks were very much a "once a year" thing- buying them in the run up to Bonfire Night was wonderful, and then setting them off on bonfire night, then going out seeing how many bonfires we could find in the neighbourhood- then it was over until next year. Being an annual tradition, it did retain a "mystical" or treat aspect, as you say.

The first change I noticed personally was that shops in Preson and Blackpool (round about 2001) were selling fireworks AFTER bonfire night, often at half price- more or less all the way into Christmas.

Edited by David, 27 September 2009 - 07:03 AM.