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[David]

Seasonal shops can't stock 1.3G can they? Or can they? Just wondering how that papershop down the road from me gets away with stocking the Epic gear.

As mentioned by TGR, it can still be stocked , but quantities of storage are an issue. Perhaps the shop carries a very modest ammount of stock in this instance. But yeah- if the fireworks are Cat 3 , and the shop has the correct storage and is within it's limits, then it's perfectly fine to sell 1.3G. Don't forget that Jimmy's are a wholesaler!

[Floydman]

seasonal shops can store 1.3G product but it seriously lowers the quantities of all fireworks they can hold. If you have just 1 x 1.3G item in your storeroom then the whole quantity in there is classed as 1.3G.

Also there is an added downer in transport of 1.3G too. Most firework deliveries are in Merc sprinter vans , these can carry up to 499kg NEC before ADR driver requirements kicks in. Now Sprinters never get anywhere near this limit. However, if any 1.3G are in the deliver then the max is 50KG NEC, so in order to comply with regs AND not need an ADR driver the vans will be out and about with roughly 20 or so cartons on board. this is not cost effective and so delivery charges will increase.

Personally 1.3G stuff is a right royal P I T A.

From your comment I assume you stock and sell fireworks ? From a consumer perspective its the 1.3G that keeps me from jacking the whole firework thing in. There are a lot of enthusiasts about who share this view.
I hope in the coming years the choice remains despite the carriage regs and subsequent costs.

[Prestonboi]

From a consumer perspective its the 1.3G that keeps me from jacking the whole firework thing in. There are a lot of enthusiasts about who share this view.
I hope in the coming years the choice remains despite the carriage regs and subsequent costs.

Same here, I wouldn't buy fireworks if 1.3G stuff wasn't available, I wouldn't see the point if whats left of the 'ummph' had been taken away.

I wouldn't go to an organized bonfire either, can't stand them, unless it's a small bonfire or I know the people there. I much prefer to do my own fireworks on November 5th.

Also the shop I was talking about has an Airboss, Triple H Bomb, 4x Predator 500 cakes, Sky Storm Rockets, Heat Seeker Rockets, boxes of Brothers SOS, lots of Dancing Red Devil gear, some small Epic cakes like Big shot and plenty of smaller stuff like fountains etc. It's a small Spar branded papershop so it just made me wonder.

Thanks for the help.

Edited by Prestonboi, 29 October 2009 - 06:13 PM.

[David]

Same here, I wouldn't buy fireworks if 1.3G stuff wasn't available, I wouldn't see the point if whats left of the 'ummph' had been taken away.

A lot of the stuff I'm using this year is 1.4G, and it's perfectly adequete. However, I am going to be adding a bit of 1.3G for the finale items.

[David]

There is a big one in Liverpool, I think "Mega" fireworks, advertising "trade prices" , but then, they all make claims like that. I didn't bother to stop, as was a bit rushed.

[Prestonboi]

Dobbies Garden centre on Blackpool Road have a selection of Standard and Black Cat stuff on sale, also leaflets with the fireworks on. Biggest Black Cat stuff is a big cake with lots of effects in pictures on the side and a few other Standard Cakes.

Deals like the 'family kit', a selection box, pack of rockets and a pack of fountains for £20. Seems fair enough to me for just a small family in a back garden.

'Party kit' is a selection box, cake and rockets for £40.

Think they have a few other stores in the country.

Edited by Prestonboi, 02 November 2009 - 02:05 PM.

[Prestonboi]

Sorry for the double post, found a new seasonal in Chorley yesterday stocking Bright Star and other items, they have their own leaflets with the words...

'Bought your fireworks from a supermarket? Dissapointed? Want top quality fireworks at mega low prices? Well come to the etc etc..', advertising free sparklers with every purchase, upto 60% of RRP and free rockets when you spend £30 or more. They have another store in Prescot.

They said they had not done well this year when we spoke to them.

Edited by Prestonboi, 06 November 2009 - 06:39 PM.

[MiniChris]

I visited my seasonal who sell cube, they had virtually no stock at all! All the Collection stuff, the titanium salutes and PS1's were gone in no time Shame thats all I was after!

[pyrotechnist]

Well to be fair fireworks are simply not changing effect wise and people are probably getting bored like myself with the lack of imagination going into each one. I have seen beautiful cakes that are sold in China though they are classed as Cat 4 I am sure they can be re-classified as Cat 3 or Cat 2 as they are basically the same dimensions as store bought cakes and NET weights but each one contains so much more effect, colour and different phases. If I remember correctly our fireworks can contain up to 2KG of powder accept for rockets of course? if that is the case then no cake I have bought yet weighs in at that accept for the tubes and clay.

Edited by pyrotechnist, 07 November 2009 - 02:01 PM.

[David]

Sorry for the double post, found a new seasonal in Chorley yesterday stocking Bright Star and other items, they have their own leaflets with the words...

'Bought your fireworks from a supermarket? Dissapointed? Want top quality fireworks at mega low prices? Well come to the etc etc..', advertising free sparklers with every purchase, upto 60% of RRP and free rockets when you spend £30 or more. They have another store in Prescot.

They said they had not done well this year when we spoke to them.

I think they are an all year rounder who have just opened up.

They sell a limited selection from Bright Star's range, typically at something like 20% off RRP (give or take.) They also have some of their own label fireworks done through concept.

Speaking personnally, little appealled from their range, I took a £5 cake from their own range which was OK, but nothing special.