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#1 pyrodavid

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Posted 29 July 2010 - 08:54 PM

will there be more ukps trainning days (cat 4 course ) as i would like to attend

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Posted 30 July 2010 - 10:08 PM

I'd also be interested in attending a ukps cat 4 training course!

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Posted 31 July 2010 - 07:38 AM

This is a nice relaxed forum, and I don't think people get too anal about where we post, but.......

As a courtesy to Phil, who I believe is lumbered with organising the cat 4 course, it might be an idea to post this in the training (and getting jobs) section.

There is already a long thread there, it might make it easier for him if you started a new one so that he can at a glance gauge when there is enough interest to organise another one.

This is not meant to sound jobs worth, it's just that the ukps staff also have busy lives and if we can make life a bit easier for them then I think we should. (except when it comes to the 100g thingy !!!! grrrr :D )

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Posted 31 July 2010 - 08:30 AM

Hi guys,

We would certainly like to organise another course, but realistically it won't be soon, as many of the members have now done Illuminates CAT 4 & we had a bit of a struggle getting up to 10 (the practical minimum) last time.

I will start a new thread & see how many takers we get...
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Posted 31 July 2010 - 05:34 PM

This is a nice relaxed forum, and I don't think people get too anal about where we post, but.......

As a courtesy to Phil, who I believe is lumbered with organising the cat 4 course, it might be an idea to post this in the training (and getting jobs) section.

There is already a long thread there, it might make it easier for him if you started a new one so that he can at a glance gauge when there is enough interest to organise another one.

This is not meant to sound jobs worth, it's just that the ukps staff also have busy lives and if we can make life a bit easier for them then I think we should. (except when it comes to the 100g thingy !!!! grrrr :D )



sorry can see your point new to all this sorry

#6 martyn

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Posted 31 July 2010 - 07:18 PM

sorry can see your point new to all this sorry


Crikey - certainly no need to apologise.
I'm sure there will be more courses - I'm also new and have just done the course and can thoroughly recommend it.
Good luck

#7 PyroSkitz

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Posted 13 August 2010 - 08:11 PM

phill, whats the minimum age limit of the cat 4 course ? as im only 17 but am really intrested in doing it, but im sure i wont be old enough....urghh :)

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Posted 14 August 2010 - 03:40 PM

phill, whats the minimum age limit of the cat 4 course ? as im only 17 but am really intrested in doing it, but im sure i wont be old enough....urghh :)



Afraid not mate :angry: You have to be 18, nothing to do with UKPS, it's the law of the land I'm afraid...
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Posted 14 August 2010 - 06:55 PM

Afraid not mate :angry: You have to be 18, nothing to do with UKPS, it's the law of the land I'm afraid...


am i right in saying he could do the theory but not the pratical, yet i remeber them saying you can still pass without doing the practical.

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Posted 14 August 2010 - 08:35 PM

You must be 18 or older to possess adult fireworks, so you must be 18 or older to possess cat4 fireworks.

How old will you be next time the course is run, possibly next summer -that's a years time so you will be 18 or very close. It's unlikely that the society will run the course before then, as there is only a steady flow of members who want it enough to pay the money!
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Posted 15 August 2010 - 01:03 PM

ill be 18 next october (im 16 now, claimed i was 17 as i didnt really think there would be a course running in less than 2 months), what about the course when you hand fire, learn to fuse and all that ? if there is such a course, is that the same age limit ? :( ahh guess i guess have to wait another year :(

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Posted 15 August 2010 - 01:15 PM

yeah, unfortunately anything more than theory is 18+ i'm afraid

#13 martyn

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Posted 15 August 2010 - 10:06 PM

You must be 18 or older to possess adult fireworks, so you must be 18 or older to possess cat4 fireworks.

How old will you be next time the course is run, possibly next summer -that's a years time so you will be 18 or very close. It's unlikely that the society will run the course before then, as there is only a steady flow of members who want it enough to pay the money!


Are you cerain about this.

My interpretation is that - no person under the age of eighteen years shall possess an adult firework in a public place. I doubt a private course venue would be thought of as a public place - at least whilst the course was in progress.

You may also not possess a cat 4 firework unless you are a blah blah - well few of us on the course fall into that category regardless of our age.

It is also an offence to sell fireworks to someone under the age of 18 - but I don't think this would apply on the course - no fireworks are sold or supplied as such - at least not to individuals.

In the dim and distant past I think I remember reading that you must be over 18 to be employed in the manufacture of explosives - this would also not apply on the course as I don't think fusing is regarded as manufacture for the purposes of the law and even if it was - we didn't do any fusing on my course.

But perhaps Illuminate feel that 17 is a bit young anyway.

Over to you Exat808 for the definitive answer?

Edited by martyn, 15 August 2010 - 10:09 PM.


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Posted 16 August 2010 - 01:33 AM

this was my belief too but Im sure Digger would be able to clarify?

#15 PyroSkitz

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Posted 16 August 2010 - 11:54 AM

wow thanks guys, i couldnt be more appreciative for your help on this subject as i am a keen learning hehe :), i can always wait if its not possible, but would be rather handy being certified at only 17 :)
Thanks - George :)




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