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[CCH Concepts]

my thought is there are some people that will no matter what get hurt, hense the Darwin awards.

but I'm thinking about mummy, daddy or wife in the back ground seeing the leaflet and stopping them before they do.

this isnt something i havnt thought about seriously, what i would like is advice on brands and ideally someone with the contacts to get me a good deal.

[portfire]

Contact 'cpfireworks' he works for Brothers. Where firing tomorrow so will have a word.

[CCH Concepts]

your a diamond and from what i hard heard on here brother do realy nice stuff.

[digger]

Just a quick note on the booze front.

I would not worry about that. The biggest firework shop that we have round our way is an off licence with an attached firework shop. They have a year round licence to sell fireworks with a decent 2 tonne store.

As already said, local council and Trading Standards are your Friend. Give em a call

[CCH Concepts]

were looking to finalize the booze licence first, just waiting for the confirmation on that, wether there any local objections etc.

once thats secured we will apply for the fireworks, hopefully in time for bonfire night. so on selection packs and rockets, what sort of mark up/profit should we reasonably expect.

[Arthur Brown]

Trade details are between you and your supplier! First you get a shop open, then you get a fireworks sales permit from your local council TSO. Then you see what you can have in a store, and what you can have in the shop in terms of NEQ. Then you make a reasoned estimate of your sales turnover and hence restocking needs. Some wholesalers will only supply once in season, others may do a daily replenishment delivery. Some will do sale or return, others will not.

All of this you have to balance against the risk of having fireworks left at the end of the season that you must store but cannot sell, or running out of stock before the day.

Buying outright in september or october will get you the best price, sale or return terms will cost you in terms of mark up available. The actual deliveries will cast you too so the fewer the better.

[CCH Concepts]

thanks for the info, sale or return was something we were thinking of, but from what you have said im guessing they charge more initially.

[CCH Concepts]

Well we now have the licence to store 250kg of explosives to sell fireworks this year. So cheers for the help and for contacts guys. Should be selling brothers fireworks this bonefire night and new years.

[starseeker]

Well we now have the licence to store 250kg of explosives to sell fireworks this year. So cheers for the help and for contacts guys. Should be selling brothers fireworks this bonefire night and new years.

Good to hear that you have got your retail licence so quickly,was it a fairly straight forward process in acquiring one?

[CCH Concepts]

Apparently so, I wasn't involved just pointed them in the right direction, sounds like it was just a phone call, onlymthing they will do is an inspection and give advice. They gave my mate the impression they can't actually turn him down, just give advice once he has notified them, I'm sure there more to it than that.

I'm guessing this licence has no use for the hobby, but should make for make for a good fireworks night.

[CCH Concepts]

im currently having a bit of a debate and would like to get everyone's opinion.

what's the pro's and cons for:

A ) going for a top brand such as brothers.

B ) going for the cheapest brand we can find.

I think

• I'm saying people will spend £100-200 for a fireworks party and we should target those people.
• I think we should offer some decent fireworks as we can never compete with the cheap fireworks that supermarkets sell and if people want cheap they will go there.

Mate think

• my mate thinks we should target the people going to the parties wanting to spend £10-20.
• my mate thinks we should get cheap foreworks and target the last min buyers going to parties, when the supermarkets are either closed or sold out.

Edited by CCH Concepts, 08 August 2010 - 06:54 PM.

[martyn]

Sorry - this isn't going to be very helpful - but why can't yoy stock fireworks for both markets.
There may be people who want cheap and cheerful but might buy one expensive item, or people who want quality but with a bit of cheap and cheerful filler.

[CCH Concepts]

Yer I have made that point, but he only wants to stock cheap. For example I was looking at a Chinese make they retail at £45 for a fair selection box, but he still feels this it to expensive.

What I was looking at was 24 case of fosters 24 case wkd and the selection box for £100, I think people would pay that.

[crystal palace fireworks]

To get an idea of what you should sell, you need to know your customer base, who are the type of people who will come to your off-license shop? whats there average age etc?

If there buying alcohol in the months before bonfire night, ask them to fill out a short questionaire in return for a small discount on the alcohol there buying (this need only be ticking boxes).

Look at the specialist all year round fireworks shop websites to see videos of the types of fireworks in action, read the customer reviews of each firework.

I would estimate that they would spend an average of about £50 +.

If its sale or return, then go for quality brands/fireworks = people will remember you = good reputation = your customers come back again.

Don`t compete on price with the supermarkets = you won`t win, but compete on quality & fair price.

Consider a leaflet drop in your immediate area a few days before bonfire night & decorate your shop front window to a high standard (guy fawkes dummy with glowing eyes would look good) to attract passing trade.

A lot people buy cat 3, but I have found that even the specialist all year round shops stock a limited amount of Cat 2 (which is a shame) as a lot of cat 2 is better suited for most peoples garden sizes, also consider selling other garden party stuff like chinese lanterns, wax torches, coloured fuel, BBQ sundries etc, remember your selling an experience as opposed to just selling fireworks.

[CCH Concepts]

Thanks for that, we are planning to do a party food delivery on the day and I think the questionnaire is the way to go. So fair your comments are similar to mine, u looking forward to see what the rest of the members think