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#16 Arthur Brown

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Posted 13 August 2014 - 07:38 PM

I shall apply when my new passport comes, six weeks and waiting.


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Posted 13 August 2014 - 08:43 PM

I shall apply when my new passport comes, six weeks and waiting.

 

Photo driving licence will do, luckily I have one now after moving house. Bank statements are a problem as I am paperless.


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Posted 13 August 2014 - 09:19 PM

Mostly good, (particularly £39 for three years) but that countersignature stuff really winds me up - who is to say that the listed classes of person are any more honest than normal decent citizens? Also you are giving them assorted proofs anyway.

 

Also sign & date and put their name under it? That could be anybody - sign it John Smith, teacher - how could that ever be checked as right or wrong?

 

All seems to have come straight from the Victorian era.

 

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Posted 13 August 2014 - 10:38 PM

Mostly good, (particularly £39 for three years) but that countersignature stuff really winds me up - who is to say that the listed classes of person are any more honest than normal decent citizens? Also you are giving them assorted proofs anyway.

 

Also sign & date and put their name under it? That could be anybody - sign it John Smith, teacher - how could that ever be checked as right or wrong?

 

All seems to have come straight from the Victorian era.

 

Yes gov'ner I'll tug my forelock, because I'm only an untrustworthy peasant...

 

I totally agree with your sentiments, but there has to be some form of cross checks even if it is open to abuse, what else can they do.

 

At lest you do not need a counter signing by a corrupt politician, incompetent doctor or somebody from the legal profession that shouts total crap just to make a name for themselves and persuade the gullible.


Edited by Vic, 13 August 2014 - 10:49 PM.

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#20 Peret

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Posted 15 August 2014 - 07:30 AM

I had to find a similar witness to sign some forms for a British financial company recently. We have public notaries over here to sign such things, but that wouldn't do. It's a strange list of occupations, clearly designed in a bygone age to eliminate the cloth cap class. I have the feeling that what they would really like is to have it witnessed by a male landowner over the age of 30 with at least 10 acres, three domestic servants, and a commission in a cavalry regiment. Kind of like what you needed to have to vote, back in the day.

 

Still, the price is pretty reasonable, and the 3 year term. Odd that it should expire when your ID does though. It is after all the license that confers your rights, not the supporting documents.



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Posted 15 August 2014 - 10:38 AM

Hopefully this development will bring some more lapsed members out of the woodwork! 


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#22 Arthur Brown

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Posted 20 August 2014 - 07:37 PM

Especially for someone using a driving licence as ID you could simply get the permit and move, or even have your licence removed by a court for offences.

 

Currently I've waited 8 weeks for a passport, then I have to use the passport as ID for a photocard driving licence then I can apply for this permit using the passport.


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Posted 20 August 2014 - 08:53 PM

Also interestingly i see that if you use said chemicals for business use ,i.e. display use then no licence is needed ,but even so i do not know whether to apply anyway,what do other display operators on here think ?



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Posted 21 August 2014 - 12:12 AM

Also interestingly i see that if you use said chemicals for business use ,i.e. display use then no licence is needed ,but even so i do not know whether to apply anyway,what do other display operators on here think ?

Well, I'm not a display operator, but I'm fairly sure mser and er2014 or whatever it is called, does not allow unlicenced manufacture of fireworks for commercial displays.

They would be uncadded, untested, untransportable (effectively) and probably unacceptable to your insurer.

But you may not need a permit to purchase the chemicals as a business buyer.



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Posted 21 August 2014 - 07:46 PM

You are quite right,

 

More along the lines of mixing on the day,insert powder in bag and instant ground maroon.



#26 Vic

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Posted 28 August 2014 - 09:32 PM

Does anybody know if there is offline application form available.


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#27 martyn

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Posted 29 August 2014 - 09:35 AM

I've just had a quick read through of the bumph with a view to getting round to applying at the weekend.

It looks to me like you have to get a scan of the passport or DL of your counter signatory!

This is a huge ask.I would not be keen for a copy of my sensitive ID to be out there, even if it were for my best friend.

Have I interpreted it correctly?



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Posted 29 August 2014 - 11:04 AM

I wonder if someone can clarify a point of concirn for myself, is everyone supposed to collect in person so the ID can be checked and the rear of the license filled in, I can't see how this can work for orders sent via a courier?

 

https://www.gov.uk/g...ives-precursors

 

Licence verification

If a customer requests to purchase a regulated substance above the concentration threshold, you should:

  1. ask to see their licence and associated photographic ID
  2. compare the photograph to the customer
  3. verify the photographic ID reference against the ID reference on the front page of the licence
  4. check the product being purchased is allowed as part of the licence conditions:

a. substance b. concentration c. quantity

  1. record the transaction details in the table on the back of the licence.

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Posted 29 August 2014 - 12:25 PM

I don't know the answers to your questions but regarding the list on your website of Potassium perchlorate, potassium chlorate and acetone. I stand to be corrected but I can't see acetone on the list but oxalic acid and barium chlorate should be added shouldn't they?

 

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Posted 29 August 2014 - 08:14 PM

so where is exactly the form for applying for a  "Explosive precursor licencing"  ?






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