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[wayne]

Please feel free to provide any constructive feedback for the ER 2014 good practice guidance in this thread.

 

Kind regards,

Wayne

Edited by wayne, 29 September 2014 - 09:51 AM.

[rocketpro]

Nice one Wayne. Reading with interest right now

[dannytsg]

Wayne - i must say that is a very good framework for us to reference and having read it don't have anything to add. I know I'll be downloading, printing and binding it to keep along with my other manuals and texts. Thanks

Edited by dannytsg, 28 September 2014 - 04:04 PM.

[rocketpro]

Retracted.

Edited by rocketpro, 28 September 2014 - 04:40 PM.

[maxman]

Very interesting. Thanks to Wayne and all others involved for getting us this far.

 

Can I ask re: Loose pyrotechnic compositions. Compositions in a loose powder state should only be stored if required  for further processing or testing, and in ALL cases in quantities not more than 100g

 

Whereas in VII.C  explosive substance storage process map asks if the substance manufactured is black powder then less than 10kg is allowed??

 

Does this mean we can make 100g 60.30.10 then when this is dry and stored 100g 44.44.9 then again when dry 75.15.10 meal then 100g 75.15.10 granulated? This of course is only 400g but is ALL blackpowder. So this would facilitate in making say a core burning rocket which might only use 20g in total but be made of various types of BP without making lots of very small quantities of individual types of BP

 

Thanks

 

Rod

[rocketpro]

This bit seems confusing....

 

 when the amount of explosive to be stored is less or equal to 100g In accordance with ER 2014 

regulation 27(3)(a).

 

 when the explosive is black powder and is stored in accordance with Appendix 7 of L150 (see regulation 

27 (3) © & (d).

 

It seems to infer that you can only keep 100g max- But as Rod mentioned in VLL.C it says <10kg is allowed.

 

Regarding manufactured articles I assume more than one item with less than 100g of comp can be stored. Is that correct??

Edited by rocketpro, 28 September 2014 - 07:56 PM.

[dave]

hi, wayne,

many thanks for all the time to put this together.
now for some bedtime reading.

dave

[dannytsg]

I think the confusion over black powder is between the crossed lines of ER2014 and having an acquire or acquire and keep cert.

ER 2014 makes reference to the amount of single composition that can be made I.E. 100g of black powder but under the COER regs with a cert you can have up to 10kg of BP if authorised.

That is how I read it anyways.

[maxman]

Yes Dannytsg that's how I see it but is the reference to 10Kg only UN0027 UN0028  OR BP by definition of an intimate mixture of potassium/ sodium nitrate and carbon with or without sulphur?

 

Rod

[dannytsg]

Yes Dannytsg that's how I see it but is the reference to 10Kg only UN0027 UN0028 OR BP by definition of an intimate mixture of potassium/ sodium nitrate and carbon with or without sulphur?

Rod

If it only states Balckpowder and not the classification such as UN0027 then it is just that, any black powder whether UN0027 or home milled, the same way that flash powder it seems is not defined by composition rather than the generic term.

[martyn]

Wayne - I have contacted you via contact@ignite, I can't see how to attach something to a pm.

[wayne]

Hi Martyn,

 

Many thanks for the feedback and very well spotted - some major typos!

 

Guidance now updated to revision 1.1 (http://www.pyrosocie...ctise-guidance/) and I'm sure there will be more to come!

 

I'll answer any questions above ASAP...

 

Cheers,

Wayne.

[wayne]

Updated again - revision 1.2

[Rip Rap]

Am I right in thinking that any B.P. based device will classed as hazard type 1?

If I make a B.P. rocket motor, I can only store it for 24 hours without a storage registration licence?

[rocketpro]

Generally a bare medium sized rocket motor would be classed as 1.3 - small motors would be 1.4

 

Obviously that could change depending on headings.