Gareth

I just got back from holiday and saw this has been cancelled - that is a shame.

My name is on the list - I was looking forward to attending.

I don't mind if there is a cost to attending events - tbh I was not expecting the UKPS to provide all free events when I joined.

Personally speaking I would prefer the membership fees to go to championing our cause / growing the ukps.

Anyway, do we think the forum is the best place to advertise events?

I notice that the event wasn't even listed in the events page of this site.

Do we do e-mail drops to all members to notify of events?  I didn't get one, but it seems to me a more direct way to drum up interest than some topic in a forum.

When I raised this subject I hadn't considered experimental pyro or the achievement in getting that legal clarity.

But I see this as an open doorway - there are more doors to open it seems.

Firstly my enjoyment is definitely in fireworks and small fireworks displays - and I do use ematches.

And I want to get into the experimental part of it myself - but I am taking that one steadily.

I think that if the regs changes in 2017 mean that we cannot use the humble ematch that raises the question: if I cannot obtain one, I cannot make one.

So if my experimental side wanted to make some - I can't.

No matter whether I have EPP + A&K.

This then made me think (see private member topic on same subject) about what getting EPP + A&K means.

I only have my EPP at the moment but distinctly remember it hitting home that this is only to get permission to get the chemicals.

I can't do anything with them.

Until I get A&K.

But then this recent development makes me think that even if I get A&K I can't do anything with it - until I have the "special knowledge".

And I see no way to get that..at the moment.

So I think that the logical next step is training.

But how to get it?  I definitely want it.

I hope I was not being negative - I was disappointed to learn this about ematch restrictions- and I want to raise the issue that we need to start to get a training system in place or we will be in more legal uncertainty.

So I absolutely agree with you about the natural development of any regulations.

But that means we need to keep up the pressure to keep those doors open.

One thing that springs to mind is this:

Who provides the training? 

What makes them so special? 

Are 'they' government sanctioned?

If not: What's to stop UKPS from offering a training facility to its members of the same standard?

If so: Could we get acceptance to offer such training?

Let's face it: We have acceptance to make pyrotechnical articles, why not training?

I'm really a total novice here by comparison but I understood to get training you have to be 'sponsored' by a company?

Who will sponsor the hobbyist?

okay this sounds good - and leics is close enough to me if that's where it ends up.

Please add me to the list