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Do you have many of the 19mm x 190mm tubes left ?

 

Are they strong enough for rockets ?

Back in stock now and yes they are great for hand rammed rockets!

No it boils down to Oliver Brown's decision not to allow face to face trading which the new law demands. 

You might think there was some weight to that statement but to be honest we have not been asked, Ken did one F2F and I have done 2 B2B in the last 6 months.

It boils down to two chemicals at the moment so I don't get it. All the other stuff surely makes up for that and surely someone could take orders for those and bring them to a meet once or twice a year??

 

Rod

Thats an interesting view, I would ask you to think about risk/reward ratio's.

OK, so lets say I import some perchlorate, I used to get mine from Nitroparis in Spain, the shipping cost is about £230 for a pallet so really the minimum you can ship is a quarter ton just so only a pound is added to each kilo, you can't add any other products on to the same pallet for obvious reasons.

So, now I have 250kg landed and ready to decant in to 1kg pots, cost of the pot, label and overheads adds another pound per KG + the room it takes up.

How many kilo's do you think I can sell if I were to attend a UKPS meeting, remember I can also only sell to the few people who hold the EEP?

It saddens me to see this.  We have spent a long time getting things official and above board, I honestly thought the pyro scene would take off and not rot away.  I still fail to see why people feel that travelling to buy their pyro supplies too much of a burden.  Where have all the customers gone??  I can only think that a lot of people must not want to be legal - but why?

 

I can only hope that this is a lull while people come to terms with the new regs and things begin bed in.

 

If anyone has any thoughts on this situation, please feel free to enlighten me!

We were happy to wait and see how things panned out but it was very clear straight after the new regs went in to play that things were different, we sold a fair bit to start with but as customers supplies of perc ran out so did other chemical orders, like Ken said, you need flour to make a cake, without perc you struggle to make coloured stars + effects, salutes (ground or aerial), just stop and have a think about how many chemicals are used in just those few effects, well over half of my stock and now nobody wants them.

I love the enthusiasm here but just talking about it does'nt pay the bills, this business has fed my family and Kens, employed two other staff but now there is not a market for our wares so it has to come to an end, one member of staff already gone and now my wife and I don't get all that involved just to make enough work for my remaining worker, not a great business plan.

I understand the need to regulate this type of hobby and it's great that you guys have made progress but it seems that you have shot yourself in the foot as the new stipulations have meant the masses just wont bother and have made the market so small it won't support a supplier, does anyone know how many licenses were issued, I would guess around 50/100 or so, if all of you bought from just one supplier it wouldn't amount to enough revenue to bother with thats why not just OB but all the other suppliers are shutting up shop or changing tact.

2. Why is everyone quoting only collecting 100g?  Why not 5kg or whatever?  What stipulates such small quantities?

Contrary to popular belief us pyronuts are extremely safety conscious, why risk storing more oxidisers than you need for the next few months, same reason you only keep 1 gallon of petrol for your mower, common sense.